We HAVE TURNED THE CORNER

[ZipsBBjunkie]

46 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

My concern is - do the budget-cutting bean counters realize this? Or do they just see the disparity in wins/losses as Joe has worked to pull the Zips out of the deepest abyss any D1 program has ever seen?

 

Joe returned to Akron for a lot of reasons that had nothing to do with football glamour and money, and more to do with running a D1 program, while being there for his family. That remains valid. If we’d just treat the guy right I think we could hold on to him for a while longer. 
 

Giving him his training table back so his offensive linemen can be an athletic 325 pounds instead of a skinny 285 pounds would be a great start.

 

There are few Joe Moorhead’s looking to coach Akron, and a ton of Arths and Ianellos. For once, could we not blow it?

Take it a step further, it's Akron. Do the budget cutting bean counters really care about Akron football or treating Joe right? The main guy on point for the budget is the provost and he's constantly yapping in his reports on the university state of affairs about the drain of athletics. This is why they moved Miller and Guthrie out right? You posted on the UA partnership with the Browns about the Ohio State check. Think Joe appreciated the first move made by the new president to give the Browns $1.3M for 'marketing'? to help enrollment? Announced right after he came on board, ahead of the news of more cuts, layoffs to faculty and academics etc. If they chose to pay the Browns even with the cuts looming, and according to the provost faculty and academics are supposedly taking precedence over athletics, but they hand the Browns $1.3m. What a joke. The Browns have more visiting fans looking for cheap seats to see their favorite team in the stadium than locals. Who exactly is UA marketing to at the Browns games? Why are those bean counters ok with giving away a million plus to a historically horrific NFL team but not trying to get out of their own abyss, making Joe play money games to support the athletic budget, giving away money to a pro team when they have to shell out multi millions a year to pay off an empty stadium built what 2 or 3 presidents ago, and to your point can't even afford to back their own student athletes nutritional needs. None of this would be considered treating him right and that's on the back of a single decision tied to the freaking garbage Browns. I hope they are all enjoying the high life in the suite while UA, faculty and clearly the best shot at turning around football they've had in years all get screwed again. At least they won't be on the hook for the additional payments required if the Browns make the postseason. 

[Captain Kangaroo]

41 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said:

Take it a step further, it's Akron. Do the budget cutting bean counters really care about Akron football or treating Joe right? The main guy on point for the budget is the provost and he's constantly yapping in his reports on the university state of affairs about the drain of athletics. This is why they moved Miller and Guthrie out right? You posted on the UA partnership with the Browns about the Ohio State check. Think Joe appreciated the first move made by the new president to give the Browns $1.3M for 'marketing'? to help enrollment? Announced right after he came on board, ahead of the news of more cuts, layoffs to faculty and academics etc. If they chose to pay the Browns even with the cuts looming, and according to the provost faculty and academics are supposedly taking precedence over athletics, but they hand the Browns $1.3m. What a joke. The Browns have more visiting fans looking for cheap seats to see their favorite team in the stadium than locals. Who exactly is UA marketing to at the Browns games? Why are those bean counters ok with giving away a million plus to a historically horrific NFL team but not trying to get out of their own abyss, making Joe play money games to support the athletic budget, giving away money to a pro team when they have to shell out multi millions a year to pay off an empty stadium built what 2 or 3 presidents ago, and to your point can't even afford to back their own student athletes nutritional needs. None of this would be considered treating him right and that's on the back of a single decision tied to the freaking garbage Browns. I hope they are all enjoying the high life in the suite while UA, faculty and clearly the best shot at turning around football they've had in years all get screwed again. At least they won't be on the hook for the additional payments required if the Browns make the postseason. 

U of A signage at every NE Ohio football stadium on Friday nights would have been way cheaper, and way more effective at reaching HS kids.

 

Giving 1.3 million to the Browns, as you’re slashing the University budget. Only in Akron. At least we’re consistent.

[MangoZip]

Heard Chuck Martin is a candidate for the Purdue job. He’s done really well at Miami but that would be a great move for him. 

[72 Roo]

I have been a fan of RJ Nemer since he took the dean position of the CBA (College of Business Administration). Because of his efforts the CBA  showed a 9% enrollment growth this year over last. He thinks outside the box and he knows UA has to get out and recruit students. His decision to give $1.3M to the Browns is a real head scratcher. It is Scarborough-esque and he deserves to be called out on it. How did he get this thru the BOT? That money could have paid for a training table plus advertising reaching all Ohio high schools. One of the biggest boosts to enrollment is having a football team the region takes pride in. Give Joe the resources, w/o busting the bank, and excitement will return to Akron. That, more than an association with a decrepit pro football team, will pay off in growing enrollment.     

 

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5 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

U of A signage at every NE Ohio football stadium on Friday nights would have been way cheaper, and way more effective at reaching HS kids.

 

Giving 1.3 million to the Browns, as you’re slashing the University budget. Only in Akron. At least we’re consistent.

WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER

Right into a wall.

[08inplay2024]

Hi everyone,

I am new to this site and I needed to vent. I have really become frustrated with how the football program has been treated by the administration, and the athletic department, I think we all heard the frustration in Joe's interview after the Toledo win.   They schedule 3 of the toughest programs in the country brings in millions of dollars to the school yet they don't even have a meal program for the players; their athletic training program is not what a division ! program should be, and Akrons children's hospital maybe great for kids but for adult football players not so much, and In this day and age a division 1 college football program cannot survive without NIL money which Akron has none, so they are losing players that make a difference to the portal for the promise of 20,000, not millions. Don't be surprised if some quality players leave for the portal after this year. The Zips have one of the most respected coaching staff in college football so don't be surprised if they start to disappear .

I don't know how much money the football team made from playing teams like Ohio State, and South Carolina, but I know it certainly does not get much back for the team. I do have one question? Who pays for the administration to go to the away games because they where all there in Columbus, Ohio and Columbia, South Carolina, (don't know about New Jersy was unable to go). Yet there is no concern for the health or welfare of the players who are playing those teams. I have been around football for a long time and I know quality programs breed success. The business of football has changed and Akron has not kept up with the rest of the country and the rest of the MAC and until they do the MAC championship they won in 2005 maybe their last.

[Blue & Gold]

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

15 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

 

 

I disagree with this. Our defense and special teams will be heavier lifts to rebuild, but it's not like those were traditional 4 year guys. The talent we're losing we gained from the portal originally, meaning we can certainly gain that talent again. 

 

We're returning our starting RB (I know Kellom is gone, but he's not an irreplaceable talent by any means), the core of our WR room (Norton is gone, but Polk and others are back), and most importantly our starting QB. Look at the Portal - not many teams are returning their promising starting QB. 

 

I don't think the Portal is affecting our momentum one bit - yet. Should the above change and we see late additions to the Portal from our roster, or should we fail to replenish with talent, then I might change my mind. As it currently stands, though, we're in a good spot I think. 

[GP1]

41 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

 

I think portal damage is relative to the damage inflicted upon the competition. Without knowing how the rest of the MAC is being impacted, it's hard to gauge. 

[catdaddyp]

42 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

I disagree with this. Our defense and special teams will be heavier lifts to rebuild, but it's not like those were traditional 4 year guys. The talent we're losing we gained from the portal originally, meaning we can certainly gain that talent again. 

 

We're returning our starting RB (I know Kellom is gone, but he's not an irreplaceable talent by any means), the core of our WR room (Norton is gone, but Polk and others are back), and most importantly our starting QB. Look at the Portal - not many teams are returning their promising starting QB. 

 

I don't think the Portal is affecting our momentum one bit - yet. Should the above change and we see late additions to the Portal from our roster, or should we fail to replenish with talent, then I might change my mind. As it currently stands, though, we're in a good spot I think. 

Agreed. It’s too early to tell, but one thing this staff has done repeatedly is hit the portal at a high rate. We’ll know more come mid-January. We always land a few important contributors after spring ball as well.
 

I’m not trying to minimize our losses, but I’m glad Zips fans are finally seeing that this staff has been recruiting talented prep players. I’ve been “banging the table” on that for some time now.
 

Edited Tuesday at 03:00 PM by catdaddyp

[catdaddyp]

24 minutes ago, GP1 said:

I think portal damage is relative to the damage inflicted upon the competition. Without knowing how the rest of the MAC is being impacted, it's hard to gauge. 

So far:

Ball State - Hit hard by the portal due to coaching change.

BGSU - Lost a number of starters. Have not been overly active in the portal as of yet. 
Buffalo - Portal will probably hit them after bowl game.

CMU - Haven’t been hit as hard as I thought they would with the coaching change, but have lost almost all their QBs.

EMU - Haven’t lost that many players. That said, they’ve lost their best WRs and DBs.

Kent - Been hit hard by the portal and has been replacing those players with true freshmen. Most of the portal additions weren’t offered by any other G5 schools.

Miami - Lost a few key players. Will probably lose more after the bowl game.

NIU - Defense has been gashed by the portal. NIU will look very different at every position but OL and RB.

Ohio - I don’t think they’ve lost a player yet. I’m sure that’ll change after the bowl.

Toledo - Another one that hasn’t lost many players…yet.

WMU - For the most part, have just lost their All-MAC TE and a few defensive guys. Their defense wasn’t good anyway, so there’s no reason to think they can’t replace what was lost.

UMASS - They haven’t lost a ton yet, but have lost some key starters/contributors.

 

[zippy5]

Again, we're allowed to recruit from the portal as well