zippy5 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 That is good but doesn't answer the host question. Generally the host can't play at their venue. It's why a St Joe's would host in Philly and not Nova. Curious if we're excluded because the MAC is the host Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, zippy5 said: That is good but doesn't answer the host question. Generally the host can't play at their venue. It's why a St Joe's would host in Philly and not Nova. Curious if we're excluded because the MAC is the host I think it’s all a moot point because we’ll be a 13 seed, but are we sure the MAC is the host? For some reason I thought Cleveland St/The Horizon League was in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, LZIp said: I think it’s all a moot point because we’ll be a 13 seed, but are we sure the MAC is the host? For some reason I thought Cleveland St/The Horizon League was in the past. https://www.ncaa.com/mens-final-four/future-info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 (edited) 13 minutes ago, zippy5 said: That is good but doesn't answer the host question. Generally the host can't play at their venue. It's why a St Joe's would host in Philly and not Nova. Curious if we're excluded because the MAC is the host Conference Host Nuance: When a conference (like the MAC) is a co-host, the rules don’t automatically bar its member teams from playing there unless the site is their regular home venue or exceeds the three-game limit. The NCAA prioritizes competitive balance and logistics over conference affiliation. NCAA Rules on Hosting and Team Placement The NCAA’s bracketing principles (from the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship Principles and Procedures) include specific guidelines about host sites: Host Institution Conflict: A team cannot play at a site where its home institution is the host if it’s considered a "home game" environment. For example, if Cleveland State were in the tournament, they’d likely be reassigned elsewhere because Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse is just two miles from their campus and they’ve played home games there (e.g., against Robert Morris in 2023-24). Three-Game Rule: As discussed earlier, a team cannot play at a site where it has played more than three regular-season games in that season, regardless of who hosts. This rule applies independently of host status. Conference Host Nuance: When a conference (like the MAC) is a co-host, the rules don’t automatically bar its member teams from playing there unless the site is their regular home venue or exceeds the three-game limit. The NCAA prioritizes competitive balance and logistics over conference affiliation. Does This Affect Akron? Akron, as a MAC member, isn’t inherently disqualified from playing in Cleveland just because the MAC is a co-host. Here’s why: Not Akron’s Home Venue: Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse isn’t Akron’s home court—that’s James A. Rhodes Arena, 40 miles away in Akron. While Akron played the MAC Tournament final there on March 15, 2025, that’s a postseason event, and the regular-season three-game rule still governs. As noted previously, Akron likely didn’t play four or more regular-season games at Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse in 2024-25, given their typical schedule and the arena’s primary use for NBA games. MAC as Co-Host vs. Cleveland State: The NCAA’s host conflict rule focuses on the institutional host (Cleveland State) rather than the conference (MAC). Akron has no direct tie to Cleveland State beyond both being Ohio schools, and their campuses are distinct. The MAC’s co-hosting role doesn’t equate to Akron having a "home advantage" beyond geographic proximity, which the NCAA often allows for lower seeds. Precedent: Conference co-hosting hasn’t historically barred member teams from playing at a site. For instance, in 2019, the Big 12 co-hosted in Kansas City, and teams like Kansas State (a Big 12 member) weren’t excluded from playing there, as it wasn’t their home venue. Similarly, Akron’s connection to the MAC doesn’t trigger a hosting conflict at Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse. Edited March 16 by Let'sGoZips94 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Good stuff. Still a very low likelihood, but at least sounds like it's possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Great picture of the Zips on the CBS bracketology page article regarding teams in the tourney. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 What is the highest seed to come out of the MAC?? I know the conference was stronger in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: What is the highest seed to come out of the MAC?? I know the conference was stronger in the past. Ball State was a 9 seed in 1989. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: Great picture of the Zips on the CBS bracketology page article regarding teams in the tourney. https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/ We are the highest 13 seed according to this bracketology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Wally World gave a massive shoutout to Akron before sending it to the official reveal show. Awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Just now, Let'sGoZips94 said: Wally World gave a massive shoutout to Akron before sending it to the official reveal show. Awesome. Came here to post this. Unbidden, too. He wasn't asked, "who are some dark horses to look out for?" He was just riffing in general. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 14 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Ball State was a 9 seed in 1989. One more question. Say we swept this years OOC schedule including St. Mary’s are we an 11 or 12th seed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 17 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: We are the highest 13 seed according to this bracketology. According to bracket aggregator bracketmatrix, who is currently tracking 111 brackets, 9 have us as a 14 seed. The other 102 all have us as a 13 seed. I think I know what seed we're gonna get! http://www.bracketmatrix.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Just now, Illini Zip said: One more question. Say we swept this years OOC schedule including St. Mary’s are we an 11 or 12th seed? If we came into the tourney with only one loss, we'd be a top 9 seed probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit322 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: One more question. Say we swept this years OOC schedule including St. Mary’s are we an 11 or 12th seed? Probably a shot at a 10 with that fact pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: One more question. Say we swept this years OOC schedule including St. Mary’s are we an 11 or 12th seed? That would mean only one loss all year, right? Even as much as the committee hates mid-majors, I think that would get us all the way to an 8 or a 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Interesting, thanks guys. Thinking ahead to next year and what might be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 7 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: Interesting, thanks guys. Thinking ahead to next year and what might be possible. in 2019, Buffalo made it all the way up to a #6 seed from the MAC with THREE regular season losses, although their OOC resume included beating two high majors, including to-be-#9 seed Syracuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 15 minutes ago, mrelegazna said: Came here to post this. Unbidden, too. He wasn't asked, "who are some dark horses to look out for?" He was just riffing in general. 👍 Also a shot of the Zips winning the tournament as they went to commercial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 It is Arizona!!!! Love the match up. Go Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 vs. Arizona in Seattle. Go Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 (edited) According to ESPN, their 7'2" C hasn't played since December. They have a 7' sophomore that averages 9.5 ppg. Otherwise, they're heavily guard dominant. They are 247th in the country in 3P%. Edited March 16 by Let'sGoZips94 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 Seattle. Shocker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roopride Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 Thoughts? How compare to past matchups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 What day and time? I cannot watch right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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