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First of all, the APR is a joke. In the Portal/NIL era, academics don't matter. The only reason Akron is being punished is because we don't make the NCAA enough money. 

 

Second of all, how embarrassing. Two straight years of penalties. Pure negligence by JoeMo and his staff. 

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4 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

3rd school in 2 years?

 

13 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

The Zips are ineligible for a bowl game this season due to low APR. 

 

 

You know what that means? It means that we will win 6 or more games this year now that it doesn't matter.

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I just saw this.  It is damn embarrassing.

 

Bad football is a little more palatable if we can say the kids are at least excelling academically.  When they are inadequate on and off the field you have to wonder what the hell is going on.

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18 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

The issue is the revolving door of players. Too many players making no progress towards a degree. 

 

Hence why it's a joke this is enforced. This is happening everywhere; other programs simply have the means and wherewithal to make sure the "tutors" are "getting the job done" (wink wink).

 

The NCAA is trying to save face academically and punishing a non-harmful program to their bottom line.  

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32 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

I doubt this holds up. NCAA has turned a blind eye to APR in the recent portal era.

Define “holds up”. Is there a way out of this? This would be so Akron to finally be bowl eligible and not get to go. 

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4 minutes ago, MangoZip said:

Define “holds up”. Is there a way out of this? This would be so Akron to finally be bowl eligible and not get to go. 

I don’t think they’ll enforce it. Bret Bielema has told the committee numerous times this issue was coming and they’ve refused to acknowledge it. The sheer amount of athletes not graduating is going to be a hot topic soon.

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If this was 2014, I get it. But nowadays...how do you even calculate who is credited for a player's graduation after they've been at 4 different schools?

 

We get 40 new kids every season and the NCAA is complaining about them not graduating? Who knew?

 

When Joe signed on, at his press conference he stated "I don't just want kids to get degrees...I want my kids to get meaningful degrees (not just major in eligibility)". That noble goal lasted about 47 minutes, then the portal concept blew up and put the kibosh on any football-academic fantasies. 

 

The bulk of today's players are no longer in college for an education. It's a job. Their goal at UA isn't to get a degree, it's to perform good enough to get noticed by a bigger program. 
 

Along with the training tables being cut last year, was the academic support staff reduced too? 

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In an era when it's almost impossible to flunk online classes, this is pretty inexcusable. OSU probably has a 5 to 1 ratio of "academic assistants" to football players. The primary job of the assistants is to take tests for the players who coincidentally happen to be in the same classes. Sanders joked when he was at Colorado that he had not seen the inside of a classroom. 

 

Let's not pretend in the NIL era players are at the schools for the education and get these issues addressed with some academic assistants of our own. 

 

Some call this embarrassing. I don't know about that. If nobody is paying attention or even cares, how embarrassed do you need to feel? 

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34 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said:

What if a couple high-academic kids walk on or get a nominal offer?

 

I think the issue is we don't even know what the problem is. Everyone is assuming it's a classroom/GPA issue, but the only specifics mentioned on the NCAA website are retention/transfer/graduation. I'm sure GPA is part of the problem, but do the aforementioned specifics pull us too far down?

 

To @Captain Kangaroo's point, if those specifics have a heavy weight in the equation, what a joke in this era. 

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1 hour ago, Hilltopper said:

The issue is the revolving door of players. Too many players making no progress towards a degree. 

College athletics used to be a means to an end. Players went to schools, got an education/degree while playing sports then entered adult life prepared for success.   Today, college football is the end and there is no preparation. 

 

I don't know how many more times I have to say this. College athletics are now minor league professional sports. I don't expect a college athlete to get a degree anymore than I expect an Akron Rubber Ducks player to attend classes and graduate from a university. Accepting this would allow coaches to do what they are brought to schools to do. That is preparing athletes for events that will be broadcast so TV networks can make money. 

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6 minutes ago, GP1 said:

In an era when it's almost impossible to flunk online classes, this is pretty inexcusable. OSU probably has a 5 to 1 ratio of "academic assistants" to football players. The primary job of the assistants is to take tests for the players who coincidentally happen to be in the same classes. Sanders joked when he was at Colorado that he had not seen the inside of a classroom. 

 

Let's not pretend in the NIL era players are at the schools for the education and get these issues addressed with some academic assistants of our own. 

 

Some call this embarrassing. I don't know about that. If nobody is paying attention or even cares, how embarrassed do you need to feel? 

 

If we were sending 10 players to the NFL annually, like OSU, I might see this argument. Why would we want to devalue our Akron degrees by just handing them to random athletes on a 2-4 win MAC teams who have little to no chance of going pro?

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1 minute ago, kreed5120 said:

 

If we were sending 10 players to the NFL annually, like OSU, I might see this argument. Why would we want to devalue our Akron degrees by just handing them to random athletes on a 2-4 win MAC teams who have little to no chance of going pro?

 

Let's not act like college degrees haven't devalued themselves over the years with what's offered as courses nowadays.

 

Do whatever it takes to keep the football program afloat and out of these types of headlines. 

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6 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Let's not act like college degrees haven't devalued themselves over the years with what's offered as courses nowadays.

 

Do whatever it takes to keep the football program afloat and out of these types of headlines. 

 

Because there are actual students at Akron who are attending classes and doing assignments in worthwhile majors like; accounting, engineering, finance, computer science, etc. Are you just going to allow anyone playing on a 0-4 win football team get a guaranteed 3.0 in one of those majors when they didn't put forth any effort? Not to mention they will be competing for jobs in those fields with other Akron graduates who put in the time and effort. In fact, even against the TAs who were the ones completing their assignments.

 

Not all majors are a joke and not all players are enrolled in worthless majors. Akron isn't OSU or Alabama. Attending here isn't getting a degree to become an NFL player. 

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