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KD should've left in a way that warranted more of this type of response.

I also hold no ill will toward him, but I will also say KD deserved this type of response from more people here when he left.

I definitely agree with you there.

This makes sense. He played for Groce at OU.

It's a nice arena with really good sightlines. Nothing fancy.

The arena is squeezed into an existing block and the entrance is almost at the sidewalk. If you didn't know it was a basketball arena, you might not know what you are standing outside of. One has to go in, show your ticket then go up to the concourse then down to your seat. There is a small club level at the top. Most of Charleston did not exist in revolutionary times and was mostly swamped so you can't really dig down to build because it's mostly fill and the cost of waterproofing alone would send the project skyrocketing. That's why the court is on sidewalk level. An expensive problem in downtown Charleston is getting your design through the historical society's review board. Akron wouldn't have that problem. Akron could save money by putting some of the arena below ground and not having to use products that blend into a city that is a museum. CofC has a nice arena. I wasn't awestruck, but did appreciate it. I just don't know how Akron pulls anything off in the next decade or two given their finances.

Jogger sweatpants

That was our first win over Frank Martin.

Groce vest was kind of iconic because you don't see a lot of coaches wearing vests. I don't disagree with your post about Ford. I just don't know what they could sell that would be the equivalent.

They have a 39 game sellout streak and they allot 900 students per game. The arena was built in 2008 at a cost of $47 million. Inflation adjusted that would be $70 million. IMO if the JAR ever reaches a point of disrepair and we have to build something new, something like this should be the blueprint. Miami went way over the top with their $260 million arena. Edit: Akron, if I recall correctly, competed in the Charleston classic a few years back. Someone might be able to provide better details about it from attending in person.

CAA finished ahead of the MAC in NET according to Warren Nolan. CAA is the 15th best conference, MAC is the 17th. His pay increases pretty drastically as he hits the achievements he was hitting here. An added factor to the pay is what they can afford NIL wise, which seems to be more. Who knows what benefits he's receiving to offset the higher COL. He also might not care because he's in Charleston, SC, year round now. Who cares if he left for a mid major? Groce should not be the target of any disdain, anger, etc., in my opinion. Don't waste the energy, choose to be happy for him, and use the energy to support Ford.

Would be cool to see a Coach Ford related item on the FTR Collective store

Me - worse conference, same pay, higher COL, and he left a top mid-major for it. The only upside is Charleston is probably a better place overall. I'd like to play them 🤷‍♂️

Easy there. He gave us 9 great years and is leaving behind his right-hand man to man the ship at Akron. It's odd to see Groce at Charleston, but there shouldn't be any ill will. Who are we to say it's a bad career move? He looks happy - that's what matters.

I hear you—it’s frustrating to see, no doubt. But at the end of the day, he’s just one guy making a bad career move. That’s not worth us getting worked up over. The program’s bigger than any one coach, and it’ll be fine. I’m way more focused on the players we’ve got and what’s next for them than putting that kind of emotional weight on someone who chose to leave.

Then don't look at them. Be happy with what you have, which is a lot!

I feel the exact same way. They made me even more sick than I expected.

I was about to say the same thing!

Not gonna lie, those pictures make me sick

@Captain Kangaroo are you going to make it out to any spring practices?

Feels like there is already a thread somewhere on viability of / state of football and the program where the football discussion could sit? In the meantime, looks like a beautiful arena there at CoC - did someone on this thread say they live there, have attended games there? What kind of student turnout do they get?