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Yay, for him. Maybe he has great success. It's been one year. Little Zips history lesson... J.D. Brookhart 2004-09 (29-43) fired Rob Ianello 2010-2011 (2-11) fired Terry Bowden 2012-2018 (35-52) fired Tom Arthur 2019-2021 (3-24) fired Oscar Rodriguez interim 2021 0-3 It's obvious that Akron WANTS to win at football because they are not afraid to change coaches, I don't doubt that, but they either keep striking out with coaches OR they give up on them when it starts getting rough. Bowden went 8-5 and won the first bowl game in school history and was let go three years later when he went 4-8... It isn't always greener on the other side. Joe Moe has shown improvement each year despite having the odds stacked against him. Things like one less practice a week are a big issue. Not having NIL money is a big thing yet somehow, he still brings in decent talent and is able to compete in the MAC with really nothing to offer except playing time. I just don't understand the urgency to get rid of him when the team has shown improvement. I agree that there were games that could have/ probably should have been won, but nearly every program could say the same thing and there aren't too many undefeated teams still out there. Everyone on here that wants rid of Joe Moe assumes the next guy is automatically going to be better or is going to be the next Ryan Day and what if it isn't? What if it is the next Kenni Burns and it sets the program back ten years??? Joe Moe has steadily improved the program with no money, less staff, less recruiting opportunities, and less practices I would rather see him stay and see what he can do with those things added.

Apparently not 100000000000% committed after all

Good luck to 290 lb Rob hauling his butt up and down the court chasing the Zips gazelles.

Forever a Zip

Up to 7!

Not at all true. It was the worst kept secret that Akron planned to appeal the decision if they became bowl-eligible and expected to win that appeal. The players knew if they beat Kent and BG, they'd likely go bowling.

1) My expectations are to find a coach who loves football so much that he doesn't give a damn about the excuses. 2) If a football coach is worth their paycheck, they find a way to win 2-3 games within the first couple of years, then push .500 or better in years 3 or 4 - especially in the MAC. Terry Bowden went 1-11 in his first year, then 5-7 in each of his next 2 before going 8-5 in year 4. Sean Lewis at Kent went 2-10 in year 1 and went 7-6 with a bowl win in year 2. 3) What are we doing comparing Akron football to the Big Ten? Nobody is asking Joe to compete against P4 schools. 4) Joe is in year 4 at Akron. He faced 4 new HCs this year and a 5th who got canned weeks after our game vs. them. Joe's record in those games: 2-3, including a loss to our rival who had only won 1 game the previous 2 seasons. This schedule had 8 wins on it. Joe found a way to lose 4 of those and stole one vs. Buffalo. 5) The eye test of the discipline (or lack thereof) and X's & O's on the field aren't meeting expectations. Those two categories are completely independent of any financial troubles that allegedly plague this program. The play calling and execution sucks. The stupid penalties and mistakes we consistently see suck. Money isn't fixing that. 1 more practice a week isn't fixing that. If the 1 extra practice is a big deal, maybe someone should've raised Hell when the NCAA decided to only punish Akron despite several other schools in the same time period also failing the stupid APR metric. Once the program decided to roll over and accept the punishment, that can no longer be an excuse. As fans, if we continue to allow the program to use all of the excuses as crutches for their shortcomings, they will continue to fall short.

Being OK with Moorhead leaving doesn't make you a hater. I think he's a solid coach, I wouldn't be upset if be stayed, but I would also be OK with change if he left. My primary reason is I don't see significant progress. Was this year's team noticeable better than 2024, or did they just get to play a UMass team that had so many injuries they had coaches taking practice reps and a beat up BG team on their 3rd QB? They had one win against a good team in 2024 (Toledo) and one this year (CMU). Sports-reference.com ranked us 136 out of 136 for SOS. Could it get worse? Absolutely. You could 100% get another Arth that would be far worse and set the program back even further. But it could also get better. Maybe you find a coach who can find a recruiting strategy that works despite the lack of resources. Maybe you find a coach who donors and alumni are excited about, and support more both financially and with personal engagement to the team. Maybe you find someone who can do better than average, even if it's for a short time before moving on. Do you truly believe Joe Moorhead can lead you to a MAC Championship at some point? If yes, you keep him. But if no, I would rather take the shot at someone else, even knowing the risk. I don't ever want to just settle for mediocrity, which is where we are right now.

Got our first!

So basically you are saying we should be having buy games at the Jar vs Marquette and Providence

They can't leave the conference soon enough.

Thought he showed potential, but it seemed clear he was on the staff’s bad side for reasons I am sure were legitimate. Think he’ll end up transferring down.

It was actually a very good write-up, but I have one major quibble. WE ARE NOT IN THE MAC ANYMORE! 😊

Bring on Hiram!

Amani needs to lock in cause the bigs in the conference are game changers rn

Or maybe the Billikens' luck has run out, and they don't have their mojo against the Zips (again)?!

There are currently 11 teams on the schedule vs. top 200 NET. A couple of those teams we play twice. I believe that's the exact same number of top 200 NET teams that we had on the schedule last year (again, a couple of those teams we played twice). It's not the schedule that would hurt us, it's the results. Last year, we lost to Arkansas State, Saint Mary's, Milwaukee, Yale, Princeton, and Ohio. We weren't competitive in any of the games except Arkansas State and Princeton. Akron still ended the season 94th in NET with a 130 SOS (I believe this includes the Arizona game). Akron this year has played much better in their 2 losses (Purdue and Yale) and still has OOC games vs. Bucknell, Tulane, and Murray State (this is the big one). Demolishing the bad teams and either winning or being very competitive vs. the good teams matters, which we've had solid results with thus far. According to Warren Nolan, our current SOS is 74th. If we can win out in the OOC, Akron will be in the discussion for the top 25 come January.

Basically the same waiver that Akron would likely have gotten if they won any of the winnable games they didn't.

Yes because the publicity from the sanctions was already quite public and large. Had Akron won 6 games, the NCAA would've been forced to drop the sanctions due to public pressure and lawsuit fears. You can have issues with how Akron has done things all you want. I think it's silly to waste time hashing out those details. Fact of the matter is, you asked a question, I answered. You made another comment that completely contradicted itself, and I pointed that out. I don't care if I get called a Joe hater or whatever. I want Akron football to be successful, I believe it can be successful, and I'm tired of hearing about all the excuses as to why Akron can't win while I watch other programs in similar situations actually win. Coaching matters, and I don't believe we have a winner at HC. Period.

PCCC also now has Gillespie's cousin, 6'7", 290 pound, Rob Whaley, who's contributing down low.

I watched the BUGS vs. K-State and the EMU vs. Cincy games yesterday & both MAC teams controlled the action from tip to final buzzer. On the road. Cincy & K-State's fans were getting excited when each respective team would be trying to claw back into the game, but neither game was particularly close - especially BUGS. BUGS & EMU are tough down low & compliment that with 3-point shooting. Add KSUck's Gillespie to the mix & Amani's gotta bring his A-game on a regular basis in the MAC 👀👀

Daunte Curtis is a new name No, he's not. My bad.

Yeah. During December, it gets dark early afternoon… in Alaska.

CMU with a horrendous loss to Loyola Chicago. In any other year, this is respectable; Loyola Chicago was 355 in NET coming into that game.

We joke, but if we can't fundraise for a ~$3k-$4k training table what are we even doing playing FBS athletics? You would think that would be pocket change for someone like Kaulig.

I blame JoMo. He should be engaging the community, Tweeting, Instagramming, recruiting 4-stars without a travel budget, schmoozing donors for NIL funds, tutoring players with sub 2.5 GPA's and singing the Zips fight song while cooking meals for the training table-less team on his Weber Kettle outside the Stiles Center. JoMo must go.

The guy down the road with the Wagon Wheel just won as many games in his first year, as it took the genius four years to win in a season. And their situation was worse than what the genius was handed.

late night drama seems likely??? Did the writer not notice that the game will start at 1 pm? https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/article/?categoryId=0&articleId=55436&articleTitle=mens-ncaa-tournament-elite-eight-preview No. 4 Akron (13-4-3) vs. No. 5 Saint Louis (12-2-8) - Saturday, December 6th, 1 PM Eastern Akron may be at home against a Saint Louis squad they beat 3-0 in the regular season, but the Zips remain wary. The Billikens, after all, are the toughest out in the country, surviving overtime, upsetting Indiana, and most recently advancing on penalties in the Sweet Sixteen. With 18 of their 22 games decided by a goal or less, another late-night drama seems likely.

If only they could take the rest of the formerly MAC West schools with them. If you look at the 6 MAC East schools we're pretty much on par with the Atlantic 10 this season. Granted sample size is still small.

I'm Happy all these analytic charts use the Z. AD Goodrich, you need to put your stamp on the programs without spending a bunch of money. I think I know a waaaay.

Well those numbers are also from 2020 so they wouldn't reflect revenue from the new B1G TV deal signed in 2022, which increased TV revenue ~150% for the conference, nor revenue from the expanded playoffs. The TV revenue alone for the conference went from $440 million to north of $1 billion annually. That adds 10s of millions of more revenue per school. They could very easily be at a profit now considering they were near breakeven before. Even if they're still losing $4 million, it's still well worth the cost given the marketing athletics provides them. They couldn't buy the publicity they receive at that cost. I'd say they're still spending responsibly. It's the programs like JMU, Florida State, Rutgers, etc that make you scratch your head wondering WTF are they even doing. Purdue I suppose would be another example that I didn't think of before about being responsible, but jumped out when looking at what you shared. Edit: According this this article Iowa athletics is self sufficient. It did borrow $50 million from the University during the covid year, but has been repaying that loan. https://www.thegazette.com/article/hawkeye-athletics-sets-another-revenue-record-while-isu-uni-struggle/

Bad day for this to happen as tomorrow is signing day. I'm still seeing recruits tweeting that they'll be signing with OU tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

NIU is in mid-season form, down by 20 at the half to Lindenwood.

Financially they escaped the deal without eating too much money. I thought it was a dumb firing when it happened. It would have only made sense if they had an Urban Meyer or Nick Saban lined up to take the job. Virginia Tech was the real winners there.

College football is an unsustainable, dying entity in its current form.

I thought he was done, but maybe not. Either way it's time to let him go with no chance of return. We need players who want to be here.

I thought he was done anyway so I'm not even upset 😂

The Sweet Spot.

I guess he's going to try it again. Lol

How we fare with our Big East brethren #8 UConn #21 Butler #22 St. John's #40 Akron #49 Seton Hall #53 Villanova #114 Xavier #118 Creighton #121 Georgetown #124 Providence #168 Marquette #178 DePaul

In fairness to OU, they've always been more of a football school.

Troy lost to West Georgia last night, dropping Kent's NET down to 165. Bowling Green is up to 63 in NET, putting them one spot behind Ohio State for the 2nd highest ranked school in Ohio.

Kiffin looks out for Kiffin. Always looking for the bigger, better deal. Ole Miss was willing to match the 13 million a year salary, but what they couldn’t do is match the promised 25-30 million player payroll that LSU was offering. Kiffin felt, right or wrong that winning a couple of games in the playoffs was going to be the ceiling at Ole Miss. Because he wouldn’t have the depth to compete against Georgia, Alabama or Ohio State. Also, last year Ohio State won the Championship with a running back they poached from Ole Miss, Quinshon Judkins. That had to sting. All while Kiffin is trying to piece a team together with transfers. Bottomline, if you can’t win a Championship in Oxford, Miss (SEC), then college football is in a worse place than college basketball. And that’s saying something.

I don't want to create a new topic called womens soccer recruits.... so, I will just post this here.