Blue & Gold Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Who would be your first pick in gym class? Why? *If you've got a candidate worth considering who predates big, bad Jeremiah, sorry, but you're too old to vote. Go get your grandkids to help you find your banana and hope our society doesn't begin leaning towards legalized euthanasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I might just be living in the moment, but went with Big Dog for the sole fact that we are 17-3 with him and am not sure we would be .500 without him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Not even close to me, no question hands down Zeke. He changed the game in ways that weren't always reflected in the stats (like people not driving to the hoop when he was patrolling it). Plus will probably stay ahead of Dig Dog in total points for a career and oh yeah the leading shot blocker in MAC history! Edited January 27, 2017 by MDZip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 This is really hard for me to get involved in when you specify the word CENTER. Some of the guys who really played Center were guys like Pat and M. Bardo. But on teams where we never really had a Center, like the years that J. Wood and Romeo excelled, we often didn't have a Center. But those two guys as post players had much of the responsibilities that a Center would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&twenty Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 As much as I've liked Zeke and Big Dog, I'm going with Jeremiah, simply because no one ever got all up in his grill without paying the price 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, MDZip said: Not even close to me, no question hands down Zeke. He changed the game in ways that weren't always reflected in the stats (like people not driving to the hoop when he was patrolling it). Plus will probably stay ahead of Dig Dog in total points for a career and oh yeah the leading shot blocker in MAC history! Yep. Big Dog is a little better offensively but Zeke is maybe the best defender the conference has seen. He changed games singlehandedly and allowed our team to play a much more aggressive defense since he was there to clean up the mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Zeke. Multiple reasons. 1) He's the only TRUE Center on that list. 7'0", long, and a true rim protector. 2) As previously mentioned, he changed the game in so many ways not reflected on the stat sheet. 3) Most importantly, just go watch the final 30 seconds of that MAC Championship Game Overtime WIN against Can't State. Would love to compile a front court of Zeke, JWood, and Big Dog, though. We'd go pretty deep in the NCAA tourney with that Front Court. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Kent/MAC championship game! And didn't we win two with him? That stands out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I would have to see Zeke, Wood, and even Bruce Weinkein play with this years team to make my decision. Then I would have to make Zeke, Wood and Big Dog go play in the MAC when Bruce did. This is going to get complicated for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dr Z said: I would have to see Zeke, Wood, and even Bruce Weinkein play with this years team to make my decision. Then I would have to make Zeke, Wood and Big Dog go play in the MAC when Bruce did. This is going to get complicated for me. BRUCE! I used to wear a Weinkein jersey my mom made me when I was real little. Ended up staying in touch with Bruce and even Nate Schindewolf a bit throughout the years. I still have a game-worn jersey of Bruce's that will go in the man cave of my new house. Edited January 27, 2017 by lilroodude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Big Dog dominates his position on the offensive end. Defense - Meh. Zeke dominated on the defensive end. Offense - Meh. I voted for Big Dog because, night-in-night-out he's a man amongst boys. And, a superior passer to Zeke. If 'Dog can win an NCAA tourney game, that would close the polls in his favor. Both are/were great MAC centers. If we could consistently recruit bigs like either of them into our Program every 3-4 years, life would be pretty good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Big Dog is more consistent and has more actual basketball skills. Zeke had more blocks, but he also go pushed around a lot because he was light for his height. BD is a more complete player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Keep in mind Big Dog basically provided nothing his 1st 2 years and didn't contribute much until Pat went down midway through last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Zeke was also the best player on probably the program's best team ever, and that team still had some glaring holes. 19 game win streak, national ranking, MAC Championship, 12 seed in tournament. IF Big Dog leads us to an NCAA tourney win then I'll have to reconsider as that accomplishment blows everything else out of the water at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) I went with Big Dog by a hair over Zeke, mainly due to motivation. I never had the impression Zeke's heart was in hoops (which is perfectly OK IMO). Edited January 27, 2017 by johnnyzip84 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Big Dog dominates his position on the offensive end. Defense - Meh. Zeke dominated on the defensive end. Offense - Meh. I voted for Big Dog because, night-in-night-out he's a man amongst boys. And, a superior passer to Zeke. If 'Dog can win an NCAA tourney game, that would close the polls in his favor. Both are/were great MAC centers. If we could consistently recruit bigs like either of them into our Program every 3-4 years, life would be pretty good. If only we could find a C with Zeke's defensive prowess with Big Dog's offensive skill set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, LZIp said: Keep in mind Big Dog basically provided nothing his 1st 2 years and didn't contribute much until Pat went down midway through last season. It's a matter of what you value. Zeke certainly provided more early on, but IMO at his peak Big Dog is the better player. Not going to argue with anyone that has Zeke over Big Dog as I actually struggled between the 2 for a bit. Just wanted to provide my reasoning behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I only wonder why Mr. Blue and Gold would not let us Geriatric, Wheelchair-bound people in our 50's or older go back beyond J. Wood? Romeo (a post player on a team that had no "Center") is the only "big man" in Zips D-1 history that holds a Conference MVP award. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Romeo (a post player on a team that had no "Center") is the only "big man" in Zips D-1 history that holds a Conference MVP award. He never got a MAC Tournament MVP when it mattered, like Zeke did. I have to go with Zeke due to getting 9 blocks in my all time favorite championship game with this ending...Plus Zeke took us to the NCAA's twice while Romeo and Big Dog haven't (not yet). Edited January 27, 2017 by tpsjugglerdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, skip-zip said: I only wonder why Mr. Blue and Gold would not let us Geriatric, Wheelchair-bound people in our 50's or older go back beyond J. Wood? Romeo (a post player on a team that had no "Center") is the only "big man" in Zips D-1 history that holds a Conference MVP award. I considered Rome the PF & Wood the C. I only went back to the J-Wood era because I don't remember any good C's in the Dan Hipsher era (when I began closely following the Zips). I remember the last few years of the Crawford era but wasn't a real fan. Edited January 27, 2017 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) That video! That game! Zeke! On another note, if you watch that clip carefully, you can tell Quincy agitated that situation. Nice to see Wistricill engaging in some physical activity. And I love the crying Kent cheerleader (erroneous on all counts!) And that crazy praying woman. Edited January 27, 2017 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: I considered Rome the PF & Wood the C. I only went back to the J-Wood era because I don't remember any good C's in the Dan Hipsher era (when I began closely following the Zips). I remember the last few years of the Crawford era but wasn't a real fan. You mean Rodney Tetzlof wasn't good enough to make your list? What about Jon Ash? IMHO, Russel Holmes deserves to be on the list, after all his team did provide us with our closest NCAA tourney margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 hours ago, LZIp said: Keep in mind Big Dog basically provided nothing his 1st 2 years and didn't contribute much until Pat went down midway through last season. He also was not a starter and played in the shadow of Zeke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: If only we could find a C with Zeke's defensive prowess with Big Dog's offensive skill set... His name is Kareem and he is not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 33 minutes ago, NWAkron said: That video! That game! Zeke! On another note, if you watch that clip carefully, you can tell Quincy agitated that situation. Nice to see Wistricill engaging in some physical activity. And I love the crying Kent cheerleader (erroneous on all counts!) And that crazy praying woman. My favorite game of any type of all time. NCAA tournament on the line against a good Kent team, in OT with that final flurry and defensive stops. Can't ask for much more than that as a fan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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