zippy5 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I will go to my grave thinking the UTA game against us last year was the best basketball performance I've ever seen. I'm convinced they would have beaten anyone in the country that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 17 hours ago, zippy5 said: I will go to my grave thinking the UTA game against us last year was the best basketball performance I've ever seen. I'm convinced they would have beaten anyone in the country that night. http://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article206938264.html Hmm. Need to fill the seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, NWAkron said: http://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article206938264.html Hmm. Need to fill the seats. A lot of similarities to Akron Quote Then he must generate enough interest on a mostly commuter campus in a large, metropolitan region where the preferred sports are pro, and in particular football. Quote Generating school spirit in the conventional sense on these campuses is difficult. The student body, which in UTA's case is more than 41,000, is varied. Oftentimes the students are adults with jobs, and sometimes with children. Going to a basketball game is a luxury. Despite having a relatively new basketball arena, a larger student body, and larger metro area they still have the same issues as us in not being able to fill their basketball arena. Makes you question the logic when people say a new arena will fix Akron's attendance problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, kreed5120 said: A lot of similarities to Akron Despite having a relatively new basketball arena, a larger student body, and larger metro area they still have the same issues as us in not being able to fill their basketball arena. Makes you question the logic when people say a new arena will fix Akron's attendance problems. The arena is not the issue. A full and rocking JAR is an awesome environment for a game. Groce and his volatility and emotion will really get things going when we are back on top again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Capacity-wise, the JAR is fine. It's just an bush-league facility. Bad sight lines, and high school gym seating. No loges. No beer sales. At $60 per season ticket, it's worth it as-is. But before I die it is my dream to sit in a revamped JAR, in a soft-cushion seat that angles towards mid-court, with a beer, watching the Zips. I think I paid $200/seat this year? I'd pay $500/seat in the re-vamped arena. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Anyone know why they don't sell beer in the JAR currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Anyone know why they don't sell beer in the JAR currently? With how bad MAC refs are and how close in proximity some of the fans are to the court, it's probably to protect the zebras from getting an early shower. Bottlegate 2.0? Edited March 28, 2018 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Anyone know why they don't sell beer in the JAR currently? Because I can't handle my alcohol. I'd love to see a revamp of the JAR, ditching that awful track and the glass divider and improving some of the sight lines. That being said, I'm lucky to see a court for $60 a season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 20 hours ago, zippy5 said: I will go to my grave thinking the UTA game against us last year was the best basketball performance I've ever seen. I'm convinced they would have beaten anyone in the country that night. I have a good friend who is communication director for Arlington, Texas. He said they were ready to run a puff piece on Cross about him and his dream job. They had to pull it. He said the university president is a prick. Take a note Board of Trustees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: Anyone know why they don't sell beer in the JAR currently? I've been told it's a logistics problem. No place in the JAR to support the infrastructure needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZZips Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Hilltopper said: I've been told it's a logistics problem. No place in the JAR to support the infrastructure needed. The men's and Women's Basketball Team Rooms would make great beer distribution points. Both have mega screen Tv's so you can watch Reghi while you get another brew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 hours ago, NWAkron said: http://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article206938264.html Hmm. Need to fill the seats. That's just brutal. So much for build it and they will come. And how much truth is packed into this line? "The NCAA tourney system is rigged against schools such as UTA, and nothing the school did by firing Cross changes anything about its situation." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Senderoff wants the field of 68 expanded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Senderoff wants the field of 68 expanded He really is the senior statesman of the MAC. We should all listen closely when he speaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 16 seeds are now 1-135 against 1 seeds and he's talking about having a 32 seed play a 1 seed? If they decide to expand I feel expanding to 96 would be the way to go. 128 is too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1982 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 7:40 PM, Illini Zip said: That's just brutal. So much for build it and they will come. Trust me, we know all about building it and no one coming. If you want tickets on football game day the walk up window is always open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Senderoff wants the field of 68 expanded Three thoughts... 1) The play-in games are a money-grab joke, especially the 11 seeds to squeeze every last dime possible out of the upper echelon level of schools. 2) The field was expanded to 64 in 1985. How many teams have been added to the Division I level of competition since? That would be interesting to know. 3) These coaches need to realize it's all about quality of wins, not quantity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1982 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 21 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Three thoughts... 1) The play-in games are a money-grab joke, especially the 11 seeds to squeeze every last dime possible out of the upper echelon level of schools. 2) The field was expanded to 64 in 1985. How many teams have been added to the Division I level of competition since? That would be interesting to know. 3) These coaches need to realize it's all about quality of wins, not quantity. There isn't that many Div 1 basketball schools, somewhere around 350. Why not just let everyone in? Seed geographically and the first 2-3 rounds are played at the home of the higher seed. They pay out to the visiting team a set dollar amount ($say $100,000). Then reseed for the rest of the tourney which would resemble what we have today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve1982 said: There isn't that many Div 1 basketball schools, somewhere around 350. Why not just let everyone in? Seed geographically and the first 2-3 rounds are played at the home of the higher seed. They pay out to the visiting team a set dollar amount ($say $100,000). Then reseed for the rest of the tourney which would resemble what we have today. Because nobody wants to watch 4-28 Delaware State play Villanova. There is such a thing as watering down your product too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steve1982 said: There isn't that many Div 1 basketball schools, somewhere around 350. Why not just let everyone in? Seed geographically and the first 2-3 rounds are played at the home of the higher seed. They pay out to the visiting team a set dollar amount ($say $100,000). Then reseed for the rest of the tourney which would resemble what we have today. There are 351 DI men's basketball teams to be exact, compared to 130 DI FBS football teams. I'd say that's a lot of DI men's basketball teams. My question was directed at the number of teams admitted to the DI ranks since 1985, the last time there was a significant tourney format change. There were 42(?) teams in 1984, but how many DI schools were there in total? Heck no they all shouldn't make the tournament. That would be the death of March Madness and college basketball as a whole. Edited April 4, 2018 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Sendy's proposal was to add 32, well, 28, to get to 96. It would add one extra round, which I'd definitely be okay with. You're still at under 1/3 of teams in the tourney, as opposed to over half of NCAAFB teams I think.. My opinion is that I think the public would view the first round the way they view the "first four," aka not really in the tournament yet. If there were 96 teams, I think you'd have to give 32 teams byes, and 64 would play to get into the round of 64. While I don't think I have anything against the idea, I don't think fans will really have that "we made the tourney" feel unless they get to that round of 64 game. Which is a whole lot of a better chance than mid-majors get now, so I'm for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Sendy's proposal was to add 32, well, 28, to get to 96. It would add one extra round, which I'd definitely be okay with. You're still at under 1/3 of teams in the tourney, as opposed to over half of NCAAFB teams I think.. My opinion is that I think the public would view the first round the way they view the "first four," aka not really in the tournament yet. If there were 96 teams, I think you'd have to give 32 teams byes, and 64 would play to get into the round of 64. While I don't think I have anything against the idea, I don't think fans will really have that "we made the tourney" feel unless they get to that round of 64 game. Which is a whole lot of a better chance than mid-majors get now, so I'm for it. Do you really think if the tournament was expanded, the committee/NCAA would push to give mid-majors more of a chance? Do you think they'd really make a change to benefit mid-majors? They literally added more play-in games for the 11-seed spot in order to dip into some bigger schools' pockets at least one last time for the season. There are ~.500 P5 schools making the tournament over 20+ win mid-majors. Expanding the tournament to 96 teams believing mid-majors would have a better chance to make it to the round of 64 is like people who don't trust the government, voting to grow the government and give it more power. The little guy would continue to get squeezed out. Edited April 4, 2018 by Let'sGoZips94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Do you really think if the tournament was expanded, the committee/NCAA would push to give mid-majors more of a chance? Do you think they'd really make a change to benefit mid-majors? Even if 1 of the extra 32 teams was a mid-major, that would be a better chance. So count me in for a "yes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 @Let'sGoZips94 I'd get your point if they were talking about adding an additional 1-5 teams, but with 28 added teams there certainly would be multiple mid-majors getting in that wouldn't have otherwise. There are only so many P5 teams and they certainly aren't going to allow an 8-24 Pitt team in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 just another example of the benefit of a tourney run... http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23500858/donations-loyola-chicago-ramblers-increased-660-percent-final-four-run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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