Game 9—Northern Illinois Huskies

[NWAkron]

17 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

WTF does that mean?

This Ryan guy probably kicks puppies and parks in handicapped spots.  Likes to kick people when they are down.  He should send his resume to the ABJ.  He and Dyer are soulmates.

[zippypitt]

52 minutes ago, NWAkron said:

This Ryan guy probably kicks puppies and parks in handicapped spots.  Likes to kick people when they are down.  He should send his resume to the ABJ.  He and Dyer are soulmates.

I don't think you are giving Dyer his proper due, as he knows his target audience well: 80-year-old Firestone Park residents.

[Lee Adams]

6 hours ago, zippypitt said:

I don't think you are giving Dyer his proper due, as he knows his target audience well: 80-year-old Firestone Park residents.

I thought most of his 'readers' couldn't.

[zipsfan15]

12 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

This picture made it into Sports Illustrated Extra Mustard this morning in a tweet from Sam Borquin saying it was 7 minutes before game time.  Not a good look.

 

 

Although there was not many more, I can guarantee you that this was not 7 min prior to kickoff!   This is both teams going through pre game warmups.  At minimum it was 30 minutes prior to kickoff.   The Zips run out of the tunnel about 7-8 minutes before kickoff. Fake news!!! 

[Dr Z]

While I think the below is correct, there were many times this statement should have been released about Akron targeting calls as well. 

 

 

The Mid-American Conference announced this afternoon that the officiating crew incorrectly called a targeting foul on Northern Illinois defensive lineman Quintin Wynne during the NIU-Akron contest on Thursday, Nov. 1 at Akron. With 5:09 left in the third quarter, Wynne was penalized for targeting on a hit on Akron quarterback Kato Nelson and was disqualified for the remainder of the contest.  The officiating crew reviewed the play immediately and determined that Wynne used his helmet with contact to Nelson’s helmet during the play. Upon further review, Bill Carollo, Coordinator of Football Officials for the Collegiate Officiating Consortium, has determined that the officiating crew was incorrect in calling Wynne for targeting and should not have been ejected.  “After a thorough review and evaluation of the entire Northern Illinois at Akron contest, this specific targeting call on Northern Illinois’ defensive lineman Quintin Wynne was incorrect. This has been reviewed internally and addressed with the entire officiating crew,” said Carollo. “The game official’s primary responsibility is player safety and we will always try to err on the side of safety especially when potential targeting fouls are involved. In this particular case the targeting foul did not rise to the high standard we expect from our game officials and replay crew. A targeting indicator was not present on the play and replay should have reversed the call on the field,” added Carollo. The Mid-American Conference considers this matter concluded and will have no further comment. 

[NWAkron]

I think that came with an unsportsmanlike penalty and gave the Zips 30 yards.  

[clarkwgriswold]

11 hours ago, zipsfan15 said:

Although there was not many more, I can guarantee you that this was not 7 min prior to kickoff!   This is both teams going through pre game warmups.  At minimum it was 30 minutes prior to kickoff.   The Zips run out of the tunnel about 7-8 minutes before kickoff. Fake news!!! 

 

Bad thing is, it was posted with that comment by Sam Borquin from WAKR.  That's friendly fire.

[Hilltopper]

32 minutes ago, Dr Z said:

While I think the below is correct, there were many times this statement should have been released about Akron targeting calls as well. 

 

 

The Mid-American Conference announced this afternoon that the officiating crew incorrectly called a targeting foul on Northern Illinois defensive lineman Quintin Wynne during the NIU-Akron contest on Thursday, Nov. 1 at Akron. With 5:09 left in the third quarter, Wynne was penalized for targeting on a hit on Akron quarterback Kato Nelson and was disqualified for the remainder of the contest.  The officiating crew reviewed the play immediately and determined that Wynne used his helmet with contact to Nelson’s helmet during the play. Upon further review, Bill Carollo, Coordinator of Football Officials for the Collegiate Officiating Consortium, has determined that the officiating crew was incorrect in calling Wynne for targeting and should not have been ejected.  “After a thorough review and evaluation of the entire Northern Illinois at Akron contest, this specific targeting call on Northern Illinois’ defensive lineman Quintin Wynne was incorrect. This has been reviewed internally and addressed with the entire officiating crew,” said Carollo. “The game official’s primary responsibility is player safety and we will always try to err on the side of safety especially when potential targeting fouls are involved. In this particular case the targeting foul did not rise to the high standard we expect from our game officials and replay crew. A targeting indicator was not present on the play and replay should have reversed the call on the field,” added Carollo. The Mid-American Conference considers this matter concluded and will have no further comment. 

That was a really bad call. The NIU player merely bumped into Nelson. Does this ruling mean that the 1/2 game suspension against the player is overturned?

[Hilltopper]

16 minutes ago, NWAkron said:

I think that came with an unsportsmanlike penalty and gave the Zips 30 yards.  

Just prior to that I had told my wife what a fine job the lady ref had been doing. Then she blew it!

[Dr Z]

In her defense, fans at home get to look at replays on large monitors. 

 

[LZIp]

43 minutes ago, NWAkron said:

I think that came with an unsportsmanlike penalty and gave the Zips 30 yards.  

Important to note there was a separate unsportsmanlike penalty that tacked on an additional 15 yards. Yes the targeting call was a joke and yes the total penalty yardage on that play was 30 yards (unless it was limited to half the distance to the goal - can't recall), but there were two separate penalties and the Zips would have had a first down regardless.

[zipsoutsider]

2 hours ago, Dr Z said:

While I think the below is correct, there were many times this statement should have been released about Akron targeting calls as well. 

 

 

The Mid-American Conference announced this afternoon that the officiating crew incorrectly called a targeting foul on Northern Illinois defensive lineman Quintin Wynne during the NIU-Akron contest on Thursday, Nov. 1 at Akron. With 5:09 left in the third quarter, Wynne was penalized for targeting on a hit on Akron quarterback Kato Nelson and was disqualified for the remainder of the contest.  The officiating crew reviewed the play immediately and determined that Wynne used his helmet with contact to Nelson’s helmet during the play. Upon further review, Bill Carollo, Coordinator of Football Officials for the Collegiate Officiating Consortium, has determined that the officiating crew was incorrect in calling Wynne for targeting and should not have been ejected.  “After a thorough review and evaluation of the entire Northern Illinois at Akron contest, this specific targeting call on Northern Illinois’ defensive lineman Quintin Wynne was incorrect. This has been reviewed internally and addressed with the entire officiating crew,” said Carollo. “The game official’s primary responsibility is player safety and we will always try to err on the side of safety especially when potential targeting fouls are involved. In this particular case the targeting foul did not rise to the high standard we expect from our game officials and replay crew. A targeting indicator was not present on the play and replay should have reversed the call on the field,” added Carollo. The Mid-American Conference considers this matter concluded and will have no further comment. 

It is hard to totally blame the refs, here.  It seems almost like this is a calibration year to establish what they will and will not call. I actually thought the unsportsmanlike call was more worthy if targeting than the initial hit.

 

That being said, the league should not have issued that statement and if the reverse it, that is not right unless they want to go back and reverse all of the lame calls all year. It would have been better and more fair to the ref to keep as an inernal discussion for officials. 

[LoyalZIP]

On 11/3/2018 at 10:47 AM, Dr Z said:

In her defense, fans at home get to look at replays on large monitors. 

 

 

The on-field officials don't have any say during reviews. All decisions are still made by the replay official in the booth, the monitors on the field are simply for helping with communication and understanding between the referee and replay official.

[LZIp]

 

[zvillezip]

Does anyone know the status of Kato for the game this week?  

[zippy5]

1 hour ago, zvillezip said:

Does anyone know the status of Kato for the game this week?  

Let's check in with our beat writer

 

 

Here are all of his tweets if you'd like some political commentary, Browns play by play, movie reviews and a few tweets from the first half of the Zips game this week. 

 

https://twitter.com/ByGeorgeThomas?s=09

 

[zzx]

 

 

[Dr Z]

On 11/5/2018 at 4:55 PM, zvillezip said:

Does anyone know the status of Kato for the game this week?  

FWIW, listed as questionable here. No Van listed is good. I saw him working out his leg on the bench at the end of the NIU game. Hopefully just a cramp.