lance99 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 (edited) On 10/23/2024 at 10:25 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: 0-6 Kennesaw State beats 5-0 Liberty. And most College Football Fans already knew that Liberty were Frauds.... Edited November 1 by lance99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, ClevelandZip said: This information turned out to be junk, so I apologize for jumping the gun. Grand Canyon University, a for-profit scam college, officially joined the Mountain West today as a non-football member. Despite being a scam college, they have a great basketball team. The word is that the Mountain West is still pursuing NIU and Toledo as football-only members. That would be a disaster for the MAC. Our media deal where we have to play at the worst times and get the smallest payouts continues to be detrimental. Not sure how the commissioner still has a job after letting ESPN abuse the conference like this. Need someone who can actually negotiate. Atlantic 10 schools get a higher payout than MAC schools, and they don’t even have football, which is supposedly the money-making sport. In the Toledo Blade article, one of the MAC basketball coaches was quoted as saying that basketball is the lone sport where the MAC schools can make money. I'm sure football would be able to make money if we had a better media deal, but I'm with you - MAC commish needs canned for what he has done to the conference. I don't think mid-week MACtion is all that detrimental, as many CFB fans nationwide love it, but the amount of money schools get for sacrificing traditional Saturday environments isn't worth it. In addition, he has failed to grow the conference with schools who actually give a damn about sports. Regarding the Mountain West, they're embarrassing themselves with their rebuild plan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 2 Author Report Share Posted November 2 12 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: In the Toledo Blade article, one of the MAC basketball coaches was quoted as saying that basketball is the lone sport where the MAC schools can make money. I'd love to know his evidence. It's a long way between teaching a kid how to break a fulll court press and understanding the complexities of television revenue generation. My argument against it is no network is offering more money because sponsors don't get value out of the advertisements so they won't pay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, GP1 said: I'd love to know his evidence. It's a long way between teaching a kid how to break a fulll court press and understanding the complexities of television revenue generation. My argument against it is no network is offering more money because sponsors don't get value out of the advertisements so they won't pay more. I don't really think television money is a big factor at the MAC level to matter in this discussion. The MAC TV deal pays like $800k a year per school. A few years ago, if I recall correctly, there was a quote from Larry Williams saying we spends $10 million annually on football. I'm not even sure if that figure included the cost of Infocision financing. There is more revenue in football, but there is also a considerable amount of more overhead. Most mid-major programs are spending between $1.5-$4 million on their basketball programs. You also play 12-15 home games in basketball vs only 5-6 in football. Let's say you spend $3 million on basketball and play 15 home games. You would need to generate $200k revenue per home contest to hit your breakeven. If you play 6 home football games and need $9 million to breakeven (10 million-1 million for TV), you need to average $1.5 million in revenue per home game. Edit: This is a simplified version. Obviously there are other factors, like NCAA tournament credits, bowl payouts, etc that can reduce the real breakeven number. The point I was more trying to illustrate is that even though football is immensely more popular, it's very costly to run. That's why you see spring football leagues constantly fail. Even when the ratings are fairly decent. If you add NIL into the mix, the gap between funding a football team vs basketball team grows even further. It's much more manageable to pay 7-8 basketball players than it will be to pay 20-30 football players. Edited November 2 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 (edited) I would imagine part of the thought process for basketball being more profitable is the guaranteed money from making the NCAA tournament, and better odds of a MAC program advancing vs football. There's a reason why the MW is back-filling with some basketball-only programs that have had proven recent success in March. This is also exactly why the MAC needs to be looking at the Missouri Valley for strong basketball programs with FCS football if they get off their hands and decide to grow. Edited November 2 by Let'sGoZips94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 6 Report Share Posted November 6 Just noticed that the college football playoff committee contains two former Akron AD's. Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel (committee chair) Former Nevada coach Chris Ault Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk Former Wake Forest coach Jim Grobe Miami (Ohio) athletic director David Sayler Former sportswriter Kelly Whiteside Former All-American Nebraska lineman Will Shields Former Toledo and Missouri coach Gary Pinkel Baylor athletic director Mack Rhoades Virginia athletic director Carla Williams Arkansas athletic director Hunter Yurachek Former Oregon State and Nebraska coach Mike Riley Former Arizona State All-American guard Randall McDaniel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 6 Report Share Posted November 6 8 hours ago, MDZip said: Just noticed that the college football playoff committee contains two former Akron AD's. Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel (committee chair) Former Nevada coach Chris Ault Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk Former Wake Forest coach Jim Grobe Miami (Ohio) athletic director David Sayler Former sportswriter Kelly Whiteside Former All-American Nebraska lineman Will Shields Former Toledo and Missouri coach Gary Pinkel Baylor athletic director Mack Rhoades Virginia athletic director Carla Williams Arkansas athletic director Hunter Yurachek Former Oregon State and Nebraska coach Mike Riley Former Arizona State All-American guard Randall McDaniel Shockingly, Dennis Helsel, Tom Wistercill and Larry Williams were not invited to join. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1996MAENG Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 On 11/6/2024 at 7:18 AM, Captain Kangaroo said: Shockingly, Dennis Helsel, Tom Wistercill and Larry Williams were not invited to join. Tom Wistercill, I think, is the Big Sky commissioner. Careers continue on sometimes in spite of obvious negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted Saturday at 01:58 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:58 PM Mike Neu out at Ball St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted Saturday at 02:30 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:30 PM 30 minutes ago, LZIp said: Mike Neu out at Ball St. I’m guessing losing to Lembo in his first season at Buffalo was the final nail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted Sunday at 05:42 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:42 PM Stan Drayton out at Temple. Temple pays well for a G5, so they should be able to make a better hire this go round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Tom Herman fired at FAU. Didn’t finish 2 seasons. $4 mil buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted Monday at 07:52 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 07:52 PM Don Brown fired at UMASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 08:08 PM 21 minutes ago, catdaddyp said: Tom Herman fired at FAU. Didn’t finish 2 seasons. $4 mil buyout. Great coordinator. Struggles as a head coach. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted Monday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:07 PM 59 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: Great coordinator. Struggles as a head coach. Hmmmm. Sounds very familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted Monday at 11:36 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:36 PM We thought the Info was a bad financial decision. Northwestern said, "Hold my wine..." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted Tuesday at 08:55 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:55 AM Charlotte fired Biff Poggi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted Tuesday at 12:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:29 PM 12 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: We thought the Info was a bad financial decision. Northwestern said, "Hold my wine..." Northwestern has something that Akron does not: CASH and the Endowment to back it up and they finally decided to spend some of it...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted Tuesday at 12:57 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 12:57 PM 24 minutes ago, lance99 said: Northwestern has something that Akron does not: CASH and the Endowment to back it up and they finally decided to spend some of it...... So they built the indoor luxury version of the Info, despite playing in the Big Ten... It's 5k seats more than the Info, and 10k seats less than Boston College's stadium. Gonna have a hard time convincing me it's $850M well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM Endowments don't work like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:29 PM 31 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: So they built the indoor luxury version of the Info, despite playing in the Big Ten... It's 5k seats more than the Info, and 10k seats less than Boston College's stadium. Gonna have a hard time convincing me it's $850M well spent. They got a donation, so they don't really need to convince anyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM 4 hours ago, zippy5 said: They got a donation, so they don't really need to convince anyone Yes, not to mention the Big 10 pays out $60M+ to each school alone. A number that will only continue to increase. Also, ticket prices will be considerably higher compared to Akron. The main difference between the schools is Northwestern is flush with cash to spend. Akron can't even afford training tables for its program... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted Tuesday at 07:10 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:10 PM 19 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: We thought the Info was a bad financial decision. Northwestern said, "Hold my wine..." Well, they will have the excitement of sell out crowds, Big Ten TV money, a club level and luxury suites. Northwestern doesn't need a giant stadium. They need a stadium that will benefit the athletes students alumni fans and general community around Chicago. Looks like they got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted yesterday at 03:09 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:09 AM 14 hours ago, lance99 said: This is arguably Ohio State's best offensive lineman. They used him as the promo pic for the Indiana game. From what I've read on X, he tore his Achilles today in practice and is done for the season. What a jinx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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