Z.I.P. Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said: Rob Senderoff. Indiana. Chuckle. The committee has a sense of humor. Had to review the story! Senderoff basically got what John Loyer got from Hughins at Cincinnati -- the convenient target treatment. Kelvin Sampson was the real responsible party. And...hmmm, whatever happened to him 🤔😉 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=3086559 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 In the NIT, Toledo plays at #2 seed Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, zipsrule said: In the NIT, Toledo plays at #2 seed Michigan. The big boys have twisted the metrics enough by switching from subjective, to subjective + RPI, to NET, and now to subjective + NET. Now they can justify sending a 27-7 conference champ that had win 17 straight before losing in their conference tournament championship game to play at a .500 Big Ten team that lost in their opening conference tournament game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, RowdyZip said: The big boys have twisted the metrics enough by switching from subjective, to subjective + RPI, to NET, and now to subjective + NET. Now they can justify sending a 27-7 conference champ that had win 17 straight before losing in their conference tournament championship game to play at a .500 Big Ten team that lost in their opening conference tournament game. The NIT only seeds the top 4 seeds in each region. They assign opponents by proximity to keep costs low. That's why Toledo was assigned to play Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: The NIT only seeds the top 4 seeds in each region. They assign opponents by proximity to keep costs low. That's why Toledo was assigned to play Michigan. Oh, I'm aware. But it sure feels like Michigan should be travelling to UT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, RowdyZip said: Oh, I'm aware. But it sure feels like Michigan should be travelling to UT. Just like Ohio State should have had to travel to Akron a few years ago. But the NIT people know the second they make that assignment, OSU and UM say no thanks and decline the invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrowe Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 OSU is playing at Youngstown State and Villanova is playing at Liberty in the NIT. These two schools don’t mind traveling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, monrowe said: OSU is playing at Youngstown State and Villanova is playing at Liberty in the NIT. These two schools don’t mind traveling. How YSU got a top 4 seed, but Toledo didn't is beyond me. By every measureable Toledo was ahead of YSU. Michigan deserves the 2 seed they got as they were literally a bubble team. It should be OSU playing @ Toledo & YSU @ Michigan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Renovations at Gallagher Iba in Stillwater, so they are road warriors until they make the finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: How YSU got a top 4 seed, but Toledo didn't is beyond me. By every measureable Toledo was ahead of YSU. Michigan deserves the 2 seed they got as they were literally a bubble team. It should be OSU playing @ Toledo & YSU @ Michigan. YSU isn't a top 4 seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: YSU isn't a top 4 seed I didn't look at the bracket, but it looks like they got the home game because of arena renovations. That makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/dan-dakich-peels-back-curtain-on-craziness-during-kelvin-sampson-rob-senderoff-era "Indiana fans, if you want to get under Senderoff's skin, cheer Bud Mackey,'' Dakich said. "Bud Mackey was a palyer from Kentucky that he sold Sampson on but never got to play. Why? Armed robbery, drugs, you name. Multiple charges. "So we find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and I'm sitting in my office, and I'm just laughing. I'm watching Senderoff, and Ray McCallum and Kelvin Sampson, it's like the Keystone Cops of idiots. We find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and my man Senderoff is balling in my office. Literally crying his eyes out.'' Edited March 14, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/dan-dakich-peels-back-curtain-on-craziness-during-kelvin-sampson-rob-senderoff-era "Indiana fans, if you want to get under Senderoff's skin, cheer Bud Mackey,'' Dakich said. "Bud Mackey was a palyer from Kentucky that he sold Sampson on but never got to play. Why? Armed robbery, drugs, you name. Multiple charges. "So we find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and I'm sitting in my office, and I'm just laughing. I'm watching Senderoff, and Ray McCallum and Kelvin Sampson, it's like the Keystone Cops of idiots. We find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and my man Senderoff is balling in my office. Literally crying his eyes out.'' Mr. Pinky's commitment to high character players goes way back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kreed5120 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, LoyalZIP said: That would be a hell of a hire and signal to me that BGSU is serious about trying to elevate their program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, kreed5120 said: That would be a hell of a hire and signal to me that BGSU is serious about trying to elevate their program. Great hire, the WAC has become a really good hoops league and he did a great job to build that program up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, LoyalZIP said: W.O.W. Quite the hire by BUGS. Here is a bit of what we can probably expect from BUGS going forward... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/dan-dakich-peels-back-curtain-on-craziness-during-kelvin-sampson-rob-senderoff-era "Indiana fans, if you want to get under Senderoff's skin, cheer Bud Mackey,'' Dakich said. "Bud Mackey was a palyer from Kentucky that he sold Sampson on but never got to play. Why? Armed robbery, drugs, you name. Multiple charges. "So we find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and I'm sitting in my office, and I'm just laughing. I'm watching Senderoff, and Ray McCallum and Kelvin Sampson, it's like the Keystone Cops of idiots. We find out that Bud Mackey has been arrested and my man Senderoff is balling in my office. Literally crying his eyes out.'' That article is the gift that just keeps on giving. Some of my favorite parts: "I took the coach at Kent State's job, Rob Senderoff. Rob Senderoff was cheating his brains out for Kelvin Sampson at Indiana and Kelvin is pretty smart. He got rid of Senderoff, but took care of him" "He slips me a camp check and says 'give it to Senderoff, would ya?' So Senderoff gets fired in the middle of the 2008 season, and then because cheating pays, he ends of getting a job at Kent State becuse he has buddies there. He went back to Kent State and got a job because he's a scheming little guy.'' "Senderoff was a little cheat, and he wasn't even any good at it,'' Dakich said. "He got caught easy when he was at Indiana." "You've got to understand that when I came to Indiana after 16 years at Indiana with Bob Knight, this little weasel Senderoff tells me 'this is as new Indiana. There's a new sheriff in town,’ “Dakich said. ''I said, ah, man, you guys are great. You're all awesome.' About a month later, I find out that Senderoff and McCallumn and Sampson are all cheating like crazy.'' Dakich said that Senderoff ''has done a good job and Kent State, and has a good team,'' but he also interjected that he ''probably still gets his players the same way Kelvin Sampson does, by cheating.'' "You can't lose to little Robbie Senderoff. He had no idea how to coach nothing. He was coaching the bigs, and that's what I did after he was fired. We had D.J. White. I said 'D.J., you need to get a jump hook.' Senderoff never did that. He's a whiner, he's a baby.'' 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: That article is the gift that just keeps on giving. Some of my favorite parts: "I took the coach at Kent State's job, Rob Senderoff. Rob Senderoff was cheating his brains out for Kelvin Sampson at Indiana and Kelvin is pretty smart. He got rid of Senderoff, but took care of him" "He slips me a camp check and says 'give it to Senderoff, would ya?' So Senderoff gets fired in the middle of the 2008 season, and then because cheating pays, he ends of getting a job at Kent State becuse he has buddies there. He went back to Kent State and got a job because he's a scheming little guy.'' "Senderoff was a little cheat, and he wasn't even any good at it,'' Dakich said. "He got caught easy when he was at Indiana." "You've got to understand that when I came to Indiana after 16 years at Indiana with Bob Knight, this little weasel Senderoff tells me 'this is as new Indiana. There's a new sheriff in town,’ “Dakich said. ''I said, ah, man, you guys are great. You're all awesome.' About a month later, I find out that Senderoff and McCallumn and Sampson are all cheating like crazy.'' Dakich said that Senderoff ''has done a good job and Kent State, and has a good team,'' but he also interjected that he ''probably still gets his players the same way Kelvin Sampson does, by cheating.'' "You can't lose to little Robbie Senderoff. He had no idea how to coach nothing. He was coaching the bigs, and that's what I did after he was fired. We had D.J. White. I said 'D.J., you need to get a jump hook.' Senderoff never did that. He's a whiner, he's a baby.'' Dakich showing once again he's a whiner and a baby because he didn't get the IU job - or any other coaching job since. Now he's a sports talk show hack and a bad color commentator. I take anything he says with a giant grain of salt. Edited March 14, 2023 by ewbrooman1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, ewbrooman1 said: Dakich showing once again he's a whiner and a baby because he didn't get the IU job - or any other coaching job since. Now he's a sports talk show hack and a bad color commentator. I take anything he says with a giant grain of salt. Me too (unless it is critical about Mr, Pinky! LOL). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, clarkwgriswold said: Me too (unless it is critical about Mr, Pinky! LOL). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, ewbrooman1 said: Dakich showing once again he's a whiner and a baby because he didn't get the IU job - or any other coaching job since. Now he's a sports talk show hack and a bad color commentator. I take anything he says with a giant grain of salt. Regardless of your thoughts on Dakich, I would venture to guess his stories are pretty factual here. Sampson's cheating scandal was pretty ugly. KSUcks being on Houston's schedule this year was pretty telling about Pinky's relationship with Sampson. We've seen the questionable character recruited to PCCC by Pinky. And let's be honest: the image of Pinky balling his eyes out is both hilarious and entirely believable. He always looks like he's one mean word away from crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 Toledo off to a good start tonight in the 69th place tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: Toledo off to a good start tonight in the 69th place tournament. Up 42-40 at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Toledo falls at Michigan, 90-80. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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