ALI ALI ....

[Zippy87]

For anyone who follows Ali on Instagram he posted a story with a picture of he and Groce with some song lyrics. I'm not hip enough to decipher what it means though 🤣

[Blue & Gold]

8 hours ago, Zippy87 said:

For anyone who follows Ali on Instagram he posted a story with a picture of he and Groce with some song lyrics. I'm not hip enough to decipher what it means though 🤣

What's he go by on instagram?

[Reslife4Life]

iamali2x

[Zippy87]

Weren't they supposed to speak more on this today?

[clarkwgriswold]

Article on Ali's appeal, his mental health issues and graduation timeline (spring)-

 

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/akron-zips-coach-john-groce-105501928.html

Edited November 28, 2023 by clarkwgriswold

[LZIp]

39 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

Article on Ali's appeal, his mental health issues and graduation timeline (spring)-

 

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/akron-zips-coach-john-groce-105501928.html

Some bad news in this article. If he only needs 8 credits to graduate and isn’t set to graduate until the spring, the U most not be offering a class he needs this semester. 
 

without knowing full details in either situation, sure seems like BS that Aziz would get cleared but not Ali. Who did he have any sort of relationship with at Cinci!?

[zipsrowdy88]

1 minute ago, LZIp said:

Some bad news in this article. If he only needs 8 credits to graduate and isn’t set to graduate until the spring, the U most not be offering a class he needs this semester. 
 

without knowing full details in either situation, sure seems like BS that Aziz would get cleared but not Ali. Who did he have any sort of relationship with at Cinci!?

I don’t think this is necessarily bad news.

 

What is bad news is that a young man is suffering from mental health issues and the NCAA doesn’t care. That is despicable. 

[Hilltopper]

1 hour ago, LZIp said:

Some bad news in this article. If he only needs 8 credits to graduate and isn’t set to graduate until the spring, the U most not be offering a class he needs this semester. 
 

without knowing full details in either situation, sure seems like BS that Aziz would get cleared but not Ali. Who did he have any sort of relationship with at Cinci!?

He needs 8 credits in the spring semester to graduate. He is already carrying a full class load this semester.

[Blue & Gold]

That's disappointing.  This would be an elite team with him in the mix.  He's more versatile than Sammy.

Man did I love what the Zips would do on defense w/ Freeman down low & Ali and Dawson on the wings.  TOUGH!

 

At least we'll have he and Dawson on the wings next year as we break in two new bigs to replace Freeman.  

 

[Zippy87]

I certainly hope we aren't giving up. Cincinnati didn't. Legal action should be in process as we speak. They need to fight this.

[1981 grad]

I did not know that Ali had suffered 2 severe concussions at Butler last year.  My son suffered a severe concussion while playing soccer and it did affect him mentally after the concussion.  It seems like Akron's argument is that Akron will give him the support he needs in order to be successful where Butler did not meet these needs.   I think Akron would have a stronger argument if Ali was from Akron and he needed the family support instead of moving away from the family support.  As basketball fans we only see these players as athletes and not individuals who will need to navigate life after basketball.  Regardless if Ali plays this year or next year, I hope he gets his degree and learns to deal with his mental issues in order that he can be successful post basketball.

[LZIp]

16 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

I certainly hope we aren't giving up. Cincinnati didn't. Legal action should be in process as we speak. They need to fight this.

I hope so as well, but crap like this only seems to go in favor of big programs.

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

Hearing more details on this, especially the two concussions, really pisses me off more. What a corrupt, piece of $#@! organization. The growing number of evil individuals in this world that love to F around with people's lives because they can is alarming. 

 

Bilas is 100% correct. NCAA sets the guidelines, guidelines are met, end of story. To interject subjectiveness is an abhorrent abuse of power. 

 

Has the MAC released a statement? Feels like the governing conference body should probably jump in and fight for one of their members schools. Doubt we'll hear anything though because the MAC leadership sucks Balls (State).

 

[Zippy87]

I want to see some fight from our AD on this. Lawyer up. Continue to put constant (and very public) pressure on the NCAA. Not only for Ali, but let every potential recruit out there see that Akron Athletics will have your back in every way possible.

[lance99]

3 hours ago, LZIp said:

I hope so as well, but crap like this only seems to go in favor of big programs.

 

I did not want to say this, but you are correct. Ali met every stipulation that the NCAA put forth. If this was Duke/Kansas/Ect, he would be playing tonight!

[Let'sGoZips94]

1 hour ago, lance99 said:

 

I did not want to say this, but you are correct. Ali met every stipulation that the NCAA put forth. If this was Duke/Kansas/Ect, he would be playing tonight!

 

If this was Kansas, Bill Self would've hooked him up with Snoop Dogg, strippers, and weed, then receive no punishment. 

[clarkwgriswold]

I guess the only good news is that the NCAA currently has a limited shelf life.  The P5s, especially in football, are already starting to consider a breakaway.  Once that occurs, the dominoes will start falling.  

 

Guthrie and Miller need to step up here and turn up the heat.

[Zippy87]

Legal action is a must. Guthrie, Groce, Miller all need to keep pushing and refuse to just accept this. 

 

Bandaogo was represented by the Morningstar Law Group of Raleigh, NC, who also represented North Carolina wide receiver Tez Walker, a two-time football transfer declared eligible for North Carolina football in October.  In both cases once the players hired legal counsel the NCAA cited "new information" and reversed their decisions.  

 

They do not want to go to court.

 

 

[clarkwgriswold]

Two things that jumped out at me from the article-

1)  "...certainly we tried to go through the process in a very respectful and professional manner."  Time to give that up and turn on the heat.

2)  "He is traveling with us to Vegas," Groce said. "... I love the kid."  I think that show you the type of family relationships Groce builds with the kids on the team and I think that's fantastic.

[RoyalBlu]

7 hours ago, Hilltopper said:

He needs 8 credits in the spring semester to graduate. He is already carrying a full class load this semester.

 

Ali's time at Butler must have truly been a train wreck ... understanding he (apparently) left Akron academically eligible as a junior ... he played his fourth season at Butler (apparently eligible) then returns to Akron for his fifth season and has two (or maybe just one) academic summer session, plus a fall semester, and still needs eight more spring credits to become a grad student???

 

This points to a very bad academic year at Butler, which is something the NCAA should be taking a hard look at, IMO. Ali basically needs/needed what looks like almost a full year academic load to become eligible at Akron. While his mental health is certainly part of the issue, he was academically eligible to play last year at Butler, and it seems like ... mental health aside ... it's questionable if Ali would be academically eligible now even with NCAA mental health clearance, unless I'm missing something.

 

Something doesn't add up. Butler and the NCAA should clear this mess.

 

 

[clarkwgriswold]

I think a primary factor in deciding whether to allow a kid's immediate transfer is the position of the school from which the kid is transferring.  Certainly, this is the primary party being potentially injured by the transfer.  Here, Butler seems to be a proponent of allowing the transfer.

[RoyalBlu]

1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said:

I think a primary factor in deciding whether to allow a kid's immediate transfer is the position of the school from which the kid is transferring.  Certainly, this is the primary party being potentially injured by the transfer.  Here, Butler seems to be a proponent of allowing the transfer.

The question isn't being allowed to transfer ... that's not a problem. The question is being allowed to play. Butler gets to use his scholarship, not skin off their nose. Akron takes all the hits ... scholarship and (loss of) eligibility.

[clarkwgriswold]

25 minutes ago, RoyalBlu said:

The question isn't being allowed to transfer ... that's not a problem. The question is being allowed to play. Butler gets to use his scholarship, not skin off their nose. Akron takes all the hits ... scholarship and (loss of) eligibility.

That what I meant, immediately play.  He's obviously here.

[72 Roo]

Enough of being Mr. Nice Guy, sue the (NCAA) bastards! 😡

[Zippy87]