Zippy87 Posted March 6 Author Report Share Posted March 6 52 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: On the post game, Groce indicated that we lost the game because we lost the turnover battle and the battle on the offensive boards. But I thought Joe Dunn had a better incite in that we just don't have players who can shoot. It seems like every game I look at the stats after the first 10 minutes and we are 0 for 10 on the 3 ball. The guys in the starting lineup and the first subs cannot make a 3. I am firmly convinced that Tavari should be inserted into the starting lineup if no other reason than he is the best of the rest. I'd definitely rather start Tavari and live with his deficiencies than roll with Thornton or Scott. Interesting to look at our team 3PT% over the past five years: 2023-24 - 33.3% 2022-23 - 35.5% 2021-22 - 35.7% 2020-21 - 33.3% 2019-20 - 35.7% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronAlumnus Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: I'd definitely rather start Tavari and live with his deficiencies than roll with Thornton or Scott. Interesting to look at our team 3PT% over the past five years: 2023-24 - 33.3% 2022-23 - 35.5% 2021-22 - 35.7% 2020-21 - 33.3% 2019-20 - 35.7% Very. The 2019 season felt like Akron shot the lights out between LCJ, Cheese, X, & (my favorite Zip) Banks. Maybe that's bc we scored so many points, we regressed to the mean. Nonetheless, I do remember Trimble was a liability but I think he was in his bag for the 2019 season & dropped off in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, 1981 grad said: On the post game, Groce indicated that we lost the game because we lost the turnover battle and the battle on the offensive boards. But I thought Joe Dunn had a better incite in that we just don't have players who can shoot. It’s about as insightful as me saying Caitlin Clark can shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 7 Author Report Share Posted March 7 25 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: Very. The 2019 season felt like Akron shot the lights out between LCJ, Cheese, X, & (my favorite Zip) Banks. Maybe that's bc we scored so many points, we regressed to the mean. Nonetheless, I do remember Trimble was a liability but I think he was in his bag for the 2019 season & dropped off in 2020. Drilling down further and looking at individual players, Freeman and Tribble have significantly improved. Hunter has improved a bit over last year. Nate Johnson is just below his 22-23 %. If you compare this year to their last full seasons, the two big disappointments when it comes to 3PT% are Ali and Dawson. Ali 21-22: 40.7 23-24: 27 4 Dawson 21-22: 36% 23-24: 30.3% Tavari is shooting 48.8% from deep on 43 attempts. It obviously won't stay that high with more volume, but I do think he can add some much-needed 3PT shooting with more minutes. Maybe they consider Tribble/Johnson together with Tavari playing more off-ball? Take advantage of his scoring but lower the possibility of turnovers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roopride Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Nate Johnson at 23%??? Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 We'll know our opponent soon. Looks like Kent, Western Michigan, or Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: We'll know our opponent soon. Looks like Kent, Western Michigan, or Miami. Thanks for that up to date info 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westie Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Miami is rotten awful right now. They might be what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 This thread can serve as the game threads for the tournament. No need to create a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 Assuming Toledo holds, this is the bracket: 1-Toledo 8-Kent 4-CMU 5-BGSU 3-Ohio 6-WMU 2-Akron 7-Miami I like getting Miami in R1, but Ohio looms large in R2. They'll be coming into Cleveland on a 6 game win streak and feeling confident. Let's hope almost a full week off will allow our guys to reset and come in focused and ready to win 3 straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Who knows, maybe Kent could pull off a first round upset against Toledo. Really wouldn’t be the craziest thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 22 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said: Who knows, maybe Kent could pull off a first round upset against Toledo. Really wouldn’t be the craziest thing They definitely could. I'm more worried about Ohio than Toledo. Toledo always chokes in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 I'm worried about everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I'm worried about everyone The way I look at it - if you don't beat Miami in R1, you were never going to make a run anyhow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 5 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I'm worried about everyone The Zips have lost to the 6 and 7 seeds and two teams that didn't make the tournament in the last month. You have good reason to be worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Groce needs to have one of these kinds of rants at the team- 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 Miami it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 If we play interior defense like the last 2 games, Anderson Big Body might have 30 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 Looking at Miami: - Only EMU, CMU, and UB were worse offensively this year in the MAC. - However, Miami was actually the 2nd best team defensively in the conference this year. - The Redhawks were 2nd in 3PT%, while the Zips ranked 1st in 3PT defense. - The have some size - Mirambeaux is listed as 6'8", 305. They also have Potter, a 7'1" center coming off the bench. Freeman absolutely has to stay out of foul trouble. - Miami won our only matchup, shooting 51% from the field and outscoring us 26-12 in the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 22 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: Looking at Miami: - Only EMU, CMU, and UB were worse offensively this year in the MAC. - However, Miami was actually the 2nd best team defensively in the conference this year. - The Redhawks were 2nd in 3PT%, while the Zips ranked 1st in 3PT defense. - The have some size - Mirambeaux is listed as 6'8", 305. They also have Potter, a 7'1" center coming off the bench. Freeman absolutely has to stay out of foul trouble. - Miami won our only matchup, shooting 51% from the field and outscoring us 26-12 in the paint. Miami is the only team in the MAC that Akron did not defeat this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Certainly not overconfident with this team. We’ve stunk for a month heading into Cleveland. Enrique is solid, but his style can’t carry the team. He can’t put up 35 on a given night to make up for the continual offensive ineptitude. Where would we be without Tribble’s emergence? Dawson has been awful. Thornton has been awful. Scott has been awful. On his best day, Hunter has been “ok”. More often than not he’s been invisible. He can’t defend. Nate Johnson hasn’t been impactful since December. His return from injury has netted zero positive impact on the Zips. Tavari hits a few 3’s, then immediately negates it with some blunder. This is Big Boy Basketball, and just being nice, lovable scalawags isn’t enough. Freeman, Ali and Tribble can only carry this crew so far. We could still take it all in Cleveland, just as easily as Freeman can get the typical 18/12 double-double and no help…and immediately head off to the G-League while the Zips try to figure out how to rebuild. Wake up, or go home Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 How the hell did we avoid PCCC - or how the hell did they avoid us? Give me Miami & Ohio all day over PCCC & Ohio. Miami could very well be a get right game that propels us. That's much easier (on paper) than your arch rival in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: How the hell did we avoid PCCC - or how the hell did they avoid us? Ironically avoided them by losing - and their losing to Toledo. If WMU had finished tied with Can't they would have been the 8th seed and Can't the 7th. With Can't having the worst record of any of the qualifiers they got the 8th seed. Still wish Ball State could have finished better and knocked them out. Maybe they should have played us 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 3 hours ago, MDZip said: Ironically avoided them by losing - and their losing to Toledo. If WMU had finished tied with Can't they would have been the 8th seed and Can't the 7th. With Can't having the worst record of any of the qualifiers they got the 8th seed. Still wish Ball State could have finished better and knocked them out. Maybe they should have played us 😂 So we shouldn't be panicking. We should be applauding the team's genius in missing just the right amount of shots these last 2 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 I’m still confident we can at least make the final. We have the talent and chemistry to win 3 games in 3 days. Whatever happened this week just needs to be forgotten, play the way we have for the first 25 games of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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