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16 minutes ago, zipsrowdy88 said:

Wow. Guthrie already was turned down by Martello Jr. and one other. This would be a legitimate strikeout for Chuck up north.

 

Insane stuff.

 

This would be good for the MAC and good for the WWR!

WWR?

 

14 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

did FTR Collective contribute to Kent's fund? 

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21 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

There it is. The circus kept its ring leader. Amazing. 

 

I feel this speaks volumes at how terrible that Fordham job is. They can't even land the hometown guy from what is perceived as a lower conference. They really should just move back to the Patriot League if they aren't going to even try to compete. Pretty much the A10s version of NIU.

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7 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I feel this speaks volumes at how terrible that Fordham job is. They can't even land the hometown guy from what is perceived as a lower conference. They really should just move back to the Patriot League if they aren't going to even try to compete. Pretty much the A10s version of NIU.

 

Just wait until they have a new F logo that will really just be the Firestone logo in maroon. 

 

(I actually like the new Akron A)

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Honestly, I'm fairly pleased he's staying. Like another poster said every batman needs his joker. I think if Sendy left Kent would spiral from being a top 3 or 4 MAC program into being a bottom 3-4 program. I would get enjoyment seeing them have a bad year here or there, but ultimately I'd prefer to end their season on a Saturday in Cleveland.

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2 hours ago, akzipper said:

 

They really put the MID in mid-major program. 

 

I guess they are happy with 2 tournament appearances in 14 years. 

 

I think there are 10 teams in the MAC not named Akron-Kent-Ohio that would be happy with two NCAA tournament appearances in the last 14 years. Appreciate this run by the Zips, it's not easy in a one-bid league. 

 

Just like you have to have stones to hit last-second game-clinching free throws, or the right guy with the ball in his hands to make the game-winning layup ....  You may also need a team to blow an 18-point lead in a championship game, or have the opposition brain fart in the final seconds to help make that happen. Akron has been in title games they should have won, but didn't (Miami, Kent), just as they have won its share.

 

It's not easy. So let's not act like it is. The key is to be in position (championship game) for all those things to fall the right way. Akron-Kent-Ohio have pretty much done that over the last 14 years to a certain extent.

 

We should appreciate that and hope it continues.

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4 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

Honestly, I'm fairly pleased he's saying. Like another poster said every batman needs his joker. I think if Sendy left Kent would spiral from being a top 3 or 4 MAC program into being a bottom 3-4 program. I would get enjoyment at seeing them have a bad year here or there, but ultimately I'd prefer to end their season on a Saturday in Cleveland.

I am also glad Kent kept Sendy. He has helped heighten the intensity of the rivalry by building competitive teams. He is constantly pushing Akron to be better and we have responded by staying one step ahead. I have issues with the character of his players, but that's a Kent problem, not ours. Keep pushing us to a level above the Flashes.  

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6 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

Also, give credit to @Hilltopper who adamantly said he wasn't going to leave. Even after several media sources said he was.

Actually Hilltopper posted 'not likely' and wasn't specific on Sendy 'choosing' to stay. Hilltopper may have assumed or knew Guthrie hiring Senderoff was never a sure thing. Don't believe everything you read from the Twitter trolls, these searches are far from black and white like that. Sendy and his agent played interest from Fordham as a finalist into a 6-year extension and much more. Good for them. That's what experienced agents do, intentional leaks that get results for their clients! 

 

The most interesting twist, I think if folks close to UA MBB insiders do a little digging you may learn that Sendy wasn't the only local MAC coach who used being active in the Fordham pool to put pressure on administration to get a stronger commitment for his program. Smart, and possibly even orchestrated between friends. As I've said before on this forum, despite the fact that a handful of folks on this board can't look beyond your wishful thinking and misguided belief that Guthrie is universally disliked by everyone at UA internally, donors/fans externally, and the MAC, he maintains strong relationships here.

 

And does the search really reflect that poorly on Fordham? They've gotten more basketball buzz in the past 24-48 hours than they've had in 25 years and many from the A10 are calling the new coach a homerun hire. Sendy was part of a larger pool that centered on existing relationships with head coaches from the MAC and elsewhere - new coach worked in UC system and Columbia for example where Guthrie also has strong ties.

 

BTW speaking of searches, how about one closer to home...are we ever going to hire a new AD? @MangoZip

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11 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said:

Actually Hilltopper posted 'not likely' and wasn't specific on Sendy 'choosing' to stay. Hilltopper may have assumed or knew Guthrie hiring Senderoff was never a sure thing. Don't believe everything you read from the Twitter trolls, these searches are far from black and white like that. Sendy and his agent played interest from Fordham as a finalist into a 6-year extension and much more. Good for them. That's what experienced agents do, intentional leaks that get results for their clients! 

 

The most interesting twist, I think if folks close to UA MBB insiders do a little digging you may learn that Sendy wasn't the only local MAC coach who used being active in the Fordham pool to put pressure on administration to get a stronger commitment for his program. Smart, and possibly even orchestrated between friends. As I've said before on this forum, despite the fact that a handful of you can't look beyond your wishful thinking and misguided belief that Guthrie is universally disliked by everyone at UA internally, donors/fans externally, and the MAC, he maintains strong relationships here.

 

And does the search really reflect that poorly on Fordham? They've gotten more basketball buzz in the past 24-48 hours than they've had in 25 years and many from the A10 are calling the new coach a homerun hire. Sendy was part of a larger pool that centered on existing relationships with head coaches from the MAC and elsewhere - new coach worked in UC system and Columbia for example where Guthrie also has strong ties.

 

BTW speaking of searches, how about one closer to home...are we ever going to hire a new AD? @MangoZip

 

All of this I would believe to be true. ADs, coaches and administrators in general rarely have 'rivalry grudges' like fans. Behind the scenes they need to work together much more than they need to fight. I would bet Groce and Senderoff see eye-to-eye on a lot of MAC basketball issues that have to be addressed and/or voted on. Same with ADs. Would not surprise me if Groce or even Dambrot spoke up for Senderoff to Fordham, if that was needed. As many have said, it is better to have Kent as a strong rival, not a weak one.

 

Ohio-Miami basketball rivalry has been negligible for many years since Charlie Coles died, until this year.  Good to have another rivalry at the top of the MAC, instead of the middle (UT-BG) or the bottom (CMU-WMU).

 

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21 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said:

Actually Hilltopper posted 'not likely' and wasn't specific on Sendy 'choosing' to stay. Hilltopper may have assumed or knew Guthrie hiring Senderoff was never a sure thing. Don't believe everything you read from the Twitter trolls, these searches are far from black and white like that. Sendy and his agent played interest from Fordham as a finalist into a 6-year extension and much more. Good for them. That's what experienced agents do, intentional leaks that get results for their clients! 

 

The most interesting twist, I think if folks close to UA MBB insiders do a little digging you may learn that Sendy wasn't the only local MAC coach who used being active in the Fordham pool to put pressure on administration to get a stronger commitment for his program. Smart, and possibly even orchestrated between friends. As I've said before on this forum, despite the fact that a handful of you can't look beyond your wishful thinking and misguided belief that Guthrie is universally disliked by everyone at UA internally, donors/fans externally, and the MAC, he maintains strong relationships here.

 

And does the search really reflect that poorly on Fordham? They've gotten more basketball buzz in the past 24-48 hours than they've had in 25 years and many from the A10 are calling the new coach a homerun hire. Sendy was part of a larger pool that centered on existing relationships with head coaches from the MAC and elsewhere - new coach worked in UC system and Columbia for example where Guthrie also has strong ties.

 

BTW speaking of searches, how about one closer to home...are we ever going to hire a new AD? @MangoZip

 

First off, let's get the record straight. I've never really shared much of an opinion on Guthrie so when you say "you" I hope you're referring to others, not me. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about his time here.

 

Fordham ended up settling for their 3rd or 4th candidate so yes I would say that does reflect poorly on them. Maybe you don't, but we can agree to disagree. Time will tell if it's the homerun hire you're claiming others are saying. Turning around Fordham is going to be a monumental task. One that probably isn't achievable unless the administration and donors step up.

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1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

 

First off, let's get the record straight. I've never really shared much of an opinion on Guthrie so when you say "you" I hope you're referring to others, not me. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about his time here.

 

Fordham ended up settling for their 3rd or 4th candidate so yes I would say that does reflect poorly on them. Maybe you don't, but we can agree to disagree. Time will tell if it's the homerun hire you're claiming others are saying. Turning around Fordham is going to be a monumental task. One that probably isn't achievable unless the administration and donors step up.

Good catch, corrected as I was not referring to 'you.' I don't believe they ended up with their 3rd or 4th candidate. My primary point was these searches involve a lot of smoke, that said it could very well be the case it was not their first choice. I do agree with you, no matter who they ended up with, it will be a monumental task. 

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