Game #3 Zips @ UAB - 8:30 pm September 13th: Catdaddyp July Preview → Official Game Thread

[Captain Kangaroo]

I predict Bruno gets stolen by Purdue as soon as this season’s over.

[exit322]

3 minutes ago, 1981 grad said:

Can our defense step up and keep them from scoring.  Would like to see an Akron win despite us shooting ourselves in the foot at least 3 times.  

And they did.  Now Akron needs to get this game at the very least tied.

[exit322]

And then Finley panics when he can step up in the pocket and Akron gives the ball back.

[1981 grad]

1 minute ago, exit322 said:

And then Finley panics when he can step up in the pocket and Akron gives the ball back.

He has played so well tonight and then he just cannot make that big play.  Can our defense hold a 2nd time to give us one more chance?

[LZIp]

2 guys covering 3 on that first down. Coaching.

[exit322]

Well, here's the chance.  80 yards from a touchdown, and approximately 77 yards from field goal range.  Here goes nothing.

[catdaddyp]

Shocked UAB didn’t run another screen there.

[exit322]

Just now, catdaddyp said:

Shocked UAB didn’t run another screen there.

I'm kinda surprised they didn't just run it.  He had the guy, though.

[exit322]

I'm shocked this drive went off the rails.

[Zippy87]

I will never get those 3.5 hours of my life back. 

[exit322]

So we looking at what, maybe 1-11 this year?  Figure Duquesne is bad enough to squeak by with a 21-14 win?  That good enough for another two year extension for the offensive genius?

 

The defense isn't anything special, but there's guys who could get a few NIL dollars from other teams on there...how many of them watching this nonsense and thinking "ya know, I could save my eligibility if I stop after four games."

Edited 14 hours ago by exit322

[catdaddyp]

Don’t turn it over, actually win the turnover battle, rack up 441 yards of offense, and still find a way to lose. Rough.

[Captain Kangaroo]

2 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

Don’t turn it over, actually win the turnover battle, rack up 441 yards of offense, and still find a way to lose. Rough.

Defense pitched a shutout in the second half to boot…

[exit322]

1 minute ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Defense pitched a shutout in the second half to boot…

Yeah.  Defense did their jobs.

[Let'sGoZips94]

It is so fitting that Akron and the Cleveland Browns are partners. Last Sunday, the Browns held the Bengals to 7 yds of total offense in the second half and lost. Last night, the Zips held UAB to 0 second half points and lost. 

 

When there's no mental pressure on Finley, he's a fine MAC QB. The moment any weight gets put on his shoulders, he folds like a very cheap lawn chair. He brought the Zips back from the dead in that game, but once it got within a score, he panicked in the pocket, missed his reads, etc. 

 

Someone on the Zips fan Facebook group stated they were at the game and heard tons of chaos on the Zips sideline. JoeMo was yelling at people and there was tons of confusion with play calls. 

 

JoeMo has to go. Let the interim coach get his feet wet vs. Duquesne. This program needs a glimmer of hope and that can only be accomplished with a HC search. UAB and Wyoming were the cornerstone pieces of a successful season this year. Two pathetic G5 programs with semi-decent name recognition, and we flopped vs. both. Bye Joe.

[AkronAlumnus]

8 hours ago, exit322 said:

So we looking at what, maybe 1-11 this year?  Figure Duquesne is bad enough to squeak by with a 21-14 win?  That good enough for another two year extension for the offensive genius?

 

The defense isn't anything special, but there's guys who could get a few NIL dollars from other teams on there...how many of them watching this nonsense and thinking "ya know, I could save my eligibility if I stop after four games."

Who cares if we even beat Duquesne, like it's awesome we beat an FCS team but that still makes us the WORST FBS team.  No victory laps after beating the JV kids. 

[kreed5120]

I haven't read the finer details of Joe's contract, but it appears his base salary is $620K and he still has two years left on his contract. That's 1.24 million in total. The buyout language in his contract says we would owe him 75% of that total. That would amount to $930K.

 

I can't see how Akron could financially afford to pay that when we couldn't even afford a training table that costs $3k-$5k. Furthermore, it's not like we have Nick Saban waiting on the sidelines wanting this job. The Akron job is among the bottom 5 jobs in all of FBS as we have poor funding and little to no NIL in a day and age where money means more than it ever did.

 

Hell, if the University just gave Moorhead $465k in NIL each of the next 2 years (amounts to what his buyout would be), Akron would probably be in a better position competitively than paying that to him to not coach. The reality is whatever coach we bring in is setup to fail and in 2 or 3 years we will be asking to pay his $1 million buyout as well. At some point this chain needs to be broken.

 

To clarify, I'm by no means trying to defend Moorhead. I just realize Akron has much deeper problems and trying to slap a bandaid on it by bringing in a new coach is simply not going to work. If they want to compete they need to better engage the community and in particular wealthy alumni and local businesses. These are 18-23 year old kids who are now hired mercenaries. They will go to the highest bidder and frankly we can't compete financially without external help.

Edited 5 hours ago by kreed5120

[clarkwgriswold]

Uncle.

[clarkwgriswold]

I find it amusing that on the morning after that loss the athletic department sends out an email announcing 50 days until the basketball season

[LZIp]

1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

I haven't read the finer details of Joe's contract, but it appears his base salary is $620K and he still has two years left on his contract. That's 1.24 million in total. The buyout language in his contract says we would owe him 75% of that total. That would amount to $930K.

 

I can't see how Akron could financially afford to pay that when we couldn't even afford a training table that costs $3k-$5k. Furthermore, it's not like we have Nick Saban waiting on the sidelines wanting this job. The Akron job is among the bottom 5 jobs in all of FBS as we have poor funding and little to no NIL in a day and age where money means more than it ever did.

 

Hell, if the University just gave Moorhead $465k in NIL each of the next 2 years (amounts to what his buyout would be), Akron would probably be in a better position competitively than paying that to him to not coach. The reality is whatever coach we bring in is setup to fail and in 2 or 3 years we will be asking to pay his $1 million buyout as well. At some point this chain needs to be broken.

 

To clarify, I'm by no means trying to defend Moorhead. I just realize Akron has much deeper problems and trying to slap a bandaid on it by bringing in a new coach is simply not going to work. If they want to compete they need to better engage the community and in particular wealthy alumni and local businesses. These are 18-23 year old kids who are now hired mercenaries. They will go to the highest bidder and frankly we can't compete financially without external help.

100% accurate.

[Let'sGoZips94]

2 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

I haven't read the finer details of Joe's contract, but it appears his base salary is $620K and he still has two years left on his contract. That's 1.24 million in total. The buyout language in his contract says we would owe him 75% of that total. That would amount to $930K.

 

I can't see how Akron could financially afford to pay that when we couldn't even afford a training table that costs $3k-$5k. Furthermore, it's not like we have Nick Saban waiting on the sidelines wanting this job. The Akron job is among the bottom 5 jobs in all of FBS as we have poor funding and little to no NIL in a day and age where money means more than it ever did.

 

Hell, if the University just gave Moorhead $465k in NIL each of the next 2 years (amounts to what his buyout would be), Akron would probably be in a better position competitively than paying that to him to not coach. The reality is whatever coach we bring in is setup to fail and in 2 or 3 years we will be asking to pay his $1 million buyout as well. At some point this chain needs to be broken.

 

To clarify, I'm by no means trying to defend Moorhead. I just realize Akron has much deeper problems and trying to slap a bandaid on it by bringing in a new coach is simply not going to work. If they want to compete they need to better engage the community and in particular wealthy alumni and local businesses. These are 18-23 year old kids who are now hired mercenaries. They will go to the highest bidder and frankly we can't compete financially without external help.

 

Joe's firing needs to be on the donors. Kaulig or someone needs to step up and fund the buyout. 

[1981 grad]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

It is so fitting that Akron and the Cleveland Browns are partners. Last Sunday, the Browns held the Bengals to 7 yds of total offense in the second half and lost. Last night, the Zips held UAB to 0 second half points and lost. 

 

When there's no mental pressure on Finley, he's a fine MAC QB. The moment any weight gets put on his shoulders, he folds like a very cheap lawn chair. He brought the Zips back from the dead in that game, but once it got within a score, he panicked in the pocket, missed his reads, etc. 

 

Someone on the Zips fan Facebook group stated they were at the game and heard tons of chaos on the Zips sideline. JoeMo was yelling at people and there was tons of confusion with play calls. 

 

JoeMo has to go. Let the interim coach get his feet wet vs. Duquesne. This program needs a glimmer of hope and that can only be accomplished with a HC search. UAB and Wyoming were the cornerstone pieces of a successful season this year. Two pathetic G5 programs with semi-decent name recognition, and we flopped vs. both. Bye Joe.

You could see it on the TV.  When the Zips were driving in the 2nd half right before the Finley score Akron called timeout and JoeMo was yelling and pissed.  On TV you could also see the frustration between Finely and JoMo when he tried to talk to Finley and he walked away.

[kreed5120]

15 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Joe's firing needs to be on the donors. Kaulig or someone needs to step up and fund the buyout. 

 

I still think that donor money would be better spent on NIL. Donors only have a finite amount of money they're willing to give. $1 million in additional NIL could greatly revamp our offensive and defensive lines. Probably make both units at or near the top of the MAC.

 

@LZIp made a comment the other day about how Akron is at the bottom spending in the MAC, but I pointed out those numbers don't include how much we're spending on Infocision debt financing. With it included we're actually near the top. It's not just about how much money you have to spend, but how efficiently you spend it. Paying a near 7 figure buyout to a coach has to rank at the absolute bottom of efficiency spending. At Akron we need to make our dollars go further, not further handicap ourselves.

[GP1]

34 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Joe's firing needs to be on the donors. Kaulig or someone needs to step up and fund the buyout. 

You spend others money so easily. 

[AkronAlumnus]

I agree that Joemo is a cancer and needed canned yesterday (said so since 2023) but I also understand the financial predicament...  I still think we have to find a way to cut ties and not spend $$ doing it.  Maybe have a 3L comb over the contact or something, idk.  He needs to go though and I'm glad that's now obvious