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Vermont wins are good for us.

I'm not the one who said Eddie George is irrelevant. Also, you notice all of these guys you mentioned came to FBS after 2-3 years of FCS coaching? I never said it couldn't work. All I said is it will still require financial backing to get things off the ground. I'm convinced even Nick Saban couldn't win at Akron given the current state of our NIL and staff budgets. Money would be needed regardless of strategy.

We have Joe for $650,000? And he's HC, OC and QB coach. We have $0 in NIL. Our staff pool is the lowest in D1. I can imagine, if Joe leaves or is fired at year's end, how bad a coach we will get for the sack of beans, buttons and bus tokens we offer. I work in Industrial Automation. It's impossible to beat your competition when you have half their distribution network, half their direct sales force, 1/4 their overall budget, 1/10 the Marketing budget, limit your outside sales force to generating business by phone and Linkedin messaging vs. getting on the road and meeting customers face-to-face, etc. etc. On one hand you don't want the University to go public with the shackles and anchors they've strapped on Joe. It would kill whatever miniscule recruiting sell-points we have left. On the other hand, staying quiet hangs Joe out to dry. 99% of the general public thinks we're funded just like anyone else. They only see wins and losses. On TV MacGyver can beat the bad guys with paper clips, duct tape and a AAA battery. In real life, that doesn't play out so well. I hope Joe has a good MAC season and sticks around another year or two. He's been dealt the mother of all losing hands and been asked to beat Phil Ivey.

I imagine a lot of Tennessee State fans said things like this over the years. At some point, someone decided to ignore the sad sacks and do something truly different. Why can't we get someone like that "someone" to work for us. What is our most recent marketing genius AD going to do that the last 10 didn't? He might be really bright and energetic, but I've already seen Band Day, etc. If Eddie George is too old and irrelevant for kids to remember and be drawn to, why are so many good transfers from respectable schools drawn to him? The nightlife at Bowling Green?

Amherst is 2 hours west of Boston

Those are East Coast dollars. The cost of living in suburban Boston is outrageous.

The simple answer is we can't, at least not with the current level of alumni and local community support. That's why I've long advocated for spending on basketball instead. Dollars go further because fewer schools prioritize it. It's also why I contribute to the basketball collective, but not football.

Financially speaking only: UMASS just hired Joe Harasymiak in December 2024. His contract details are: Term: Five years. Salary: Approximately $1.3 million to $1.4 million annually. NIL/Revenue Share: Guaranteed funds of $2 million for 2025 and $3 million for 2026. Staff Pool: Over $2.7 million, which is projected to be the highest in the MAC. Coaching Experience: 2025 – Present: Head Coach, University of Massachusetts 2022 – 2024: Defensive Coordinator, Rutgers University 2018 – 2021: Co-Defensive Coordinator/Safeties Coach, University of Minnesota 2016 – 2018: Head Coach, University of Maine 2014 – 2015: Linebackers Coach, University of Maine 2011 – 2013: Defensive Backs Coach, University of Maine If he gets that kind of money how could Akron EVER afford to bring in a Coach that is going to bring in all of this talent because of their names or what they have done. Most kids on these college football teams were only one or two years old when Eddie George retired from the NFL and would only know who he is from a parent UNLESS the school did a fantastic job of marketing and selling their name. Seeing this NIL/Revenue Share Guaranteed funds, makes me wonder if Akron football gets anything like that?

Not likely to be a popular suggestion, but Jerry Kill has won everywhere he has coached. Get him to Akron for a 2-3 year stint (he has severe health issues) to build a foundation.

Trent Dilfer was a journeyman QB in the NFL. Eddie George I'm not certain is a Hall of Famer, but his career was certainly good enough that he's worthy of bare minimum being in the hall of very very good. He would probably already be in the HOF had the Titans beat the Rams in the Superbowl. He's that much on the fence IMO. He's also a hero in the state of Ohio. Trent Dilfer to my knowledge doesn't have any connection to UAB or the state of Alabama that would generate any excitement. I wouldn't even know of a candidate, like Eddie George, who would both generate buzz and who would actually want to coach at Akron. You have to remember BG and Colorado weren't Eddie's and Deion's first jobs. I guess a good place to look would be to see who is coaching at the FCS level that would generate the buzz you're looking for if that's the route you would want to go. I would also think you would need an experienced staff to make up for an inexperienced head coach. Guys like Deion or Eddie might know football, but they are new to navigating the GM side of college football. Experienced coaches are likely expensive. Once again any route you take you will need a serious upfront financial commitment to at least get the plan off the ground.

Dang, would've loved to see St Louis win both matches this week before they come into Akron next week.

I guess by this logic UAB should be winning their conference every year right??? Trent Dilfer SUPERBOWL CHAMPION ????? Your logic MIGHT bring in a very small handful of players based off of a coach being a retired NFL player. MIGHT... You are not thinking like the modern day college athlete. College football players are now basically mercernaries. They are going to go with who is paying them the most unless they are an elite player and have major Power4 offers then maybe they will choose based off of the actual team and even though you see players transfer every single year from major Power4 universities to chase the dollar. I googled Bowling Green freshman three star football players signed this year... two jarin mock and deshon jenkins... they had older players transfer but only two freshman... According to ON3 for Akron every scholarship freshman is a three star: Vann Kavals, Ty Watkins, Gavin James, Tairan Davis, John Gould, Devin Reeves, Jaiden Brown-Demery, Luke Sivon, Kenneth McManus, and Cibastion Broughton... TEN... every single scholarship freshman... Your thoughts may prove right but there also a lot of variables .... But those freshman all knew about Eddie George and they got TWO three stars

Tuesday September 16th Missouri State traveled tonight to #7 St. Louis. The 2 teams ended up in a 1-1 draw #9 Vermont kept their undefeated streak going at home with a 2-1 win over Hofstra. Friday the 19th....will be the opening day/night for Big East soccer Important matches on Friday are : DePaul at Villanova 4 Providence at Seton Hall 7 Georgetown at Butler 7 Xavier at St. John's 7 Marquette at Creighton 8 James Madison at West Virginia 7 Ohio State at Michigan State 7

I bet the coaches and players of the kids going to BG remember him. Heisman Trophy winners are hard to forget. He's Dieon Sanders without the flash and gold jacket (yet). Imagine the recruiting credibility he'll have if he gets a Hall of Fame induction in the next couple of years. Imagine if he is coaching at BG if it happens and the entire team is sitting in front of the stage while he gives his induction speech. It's not outside of the world of reality. Kids want to win. Tennessee State won their conference for the first time since 1999 last year. He actually built a solid team over 4 years and BG was on solid footing when he took over. He has a win against Liberty already, which could prove to be hollow at seasons end, but a big name win already. I'm guessing a lot of the moms and grandmas of the recruits are more than impressed with him. The fathers want to be him. The mother's want to jump in the sack with him. Good grief, he's married to a pop music star. Is education important to you? It is to him. He has a degree in Landscape Architecture from OSU and an MBA from Northwestern. George's credibility is immediate and lasting. If Day ever leaves OSU, George is immediately one of the finalists for the job. What else could he do that could make him more credible to kids?

I’ll go a step further. I always liked our chances of winning when Evan Wilson was in the game at the very end.

This should get it’s own topic, right?

I'd be curious to see how Eddie George relates to the kids and gets the credibility. I suspect the awards and rings are the key as they'd have no idea who he was coming through the door as he played before most of them were born. As for donors and NIL, I suspect JoMo is not the guy to work a room to whip up support from wealthy donors. I've overused the comparison but we have a basketball coach who is that guy.

...and we all know the most important rotation is the one in at the end of the game, not the starters.

Maybe there is another option. Maybe we could hire a coach with so much credibility with kids that they would be lining up to play for the Zips. https://bgsufalcons.com/news/2025/7/8/bowling-green-football-lands-no-1-transfer-class-in-the-mac-per-247sports

.Stats are one important measure, but they don't tell the whole story. I don't know how Catdaddy makes his (VERY welcome) evaluations, but I want to see the whole field and be able to go back over the tape as much as l need. We absolutely need to utilize those free four games to see what we have on the bench. For some that could be now; for others that might need to come later after a few months getting acclimated to D1 FB. I'm not ready to give up this team or Joe. There is a lot of FB yet to be played. Recruiting, retention, and NIL: Many have bigger budgets, bigger staffs, lots of NIL$. So, roll over and play dead? Very few of our athletes play professionally, but we can show recruits that possibility. With the lack of NIL $, what NIL "value" can we offer? Employment possibilities after graduation? Intern possibilities in school? Things a 4 or 5 star wouldn't sniff at, but a 2 or 3 star might find of value. That is where we live. When a starter leaves to sit on the bench at a lower P4, is that NIL$ going to make a difference next year or in 5 years? What else can we come up with to add value to come and stay at Akron?

Zips come in at #10 in this week's coaches poll. Friday's opponent (UConn) is essentially #27 as they are second highest in the receiving votes section. Also worth noting that next Tuesday's opponent (St Louis) moved up from #24 to #7. https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-di-men/

Central Michigan played Pitt and Michigan both I am sure they got a nice payday. And I am sure the players that went to Central Michigan, saw the schedule and saw "I can get exposure by playing these big schools and showing what I can do." I would rather have the money now over the next two - three years from playing 2-3 Power4 schools and build the pot, then saying look if we play this easy schedule MAYBE we can get a winning record...

here is a breakdown: edge rushers Interior Defenders Hall 4 solo 5 assists 1.5 sacks 1 qbh (163 snaps) Laventure 1 solo 4 assists 1 qbh (153 snaps) Durham 1 tackle 6 assists .5 sack 1 qbh (193 snaps most on defense) Hull 1 solo 2 assists (182 snaps) D. Frazier no stats (60 snaps) Mixon 1 solo 2 assists (51 snaps) J. Frazier 1 assist (29 snaps Murphy 3 solo 2 assists 1 qbh (91 snaps) total: 5 solo 12 assists 2 sacks 2 qbh total 6 solo 10 assists 2 qbh This isn't working. Let me guess starters will play against Duquesne for stats, nothing will be learned about the freshman and it will repeat itself once we play conference. The ends are not getting ANY pressure on any qb. Freshman 6'5 265 athlete extremely athletic and fast Freshman 6'4 317 lbs extremely powerful How is an end that plays more than any defender on the field have 1 tackle and 6 assists? Bruno has matched his performance for the entire year last year in about a third of the snaps. If the line is not getting pressure the secondary will get torn up. I know the defense kept us in the game against Wyoming and we should have won, I know Nebraska was a completely different opponent, and I know we should have won the game against UAB. Duquesne is wash you can pound your chest all you want after the game, but we got Toledo, Central Michigan, and Miami of Ohio. Why not try these other two and see what happens? If your worried about redshirting, they have four games to burn.

If we can't raise $1 million in NIL then we shouldn't be in the FBS. I agree that's a lot of money, but that's probably the minimum amount of money needed to compete in the MAC now. I've said in the past Akron should be playing 2, preferably 3 P4 schools each year. The first game should go towards helping fund the program. Games 2 and 3 we should set aside $250k-$500k each game to help fund NIL since schools are now allowed to pay players directly. Many on here then complain that the schedule would become too challenging. My thought process is well at least we could afford a team. Besides, counting the 1 FCS OOC win we would still only need to go 5-3 in MAC play to make a bowl. Considering how bad the MAC is that should be achievable.

That's what I am saying Kreed. I don't believe you throw in the towel and start all over with another coach and blow it all up. I can't remember who said it, but someone pointed out that the buyout for JoeMo is close to a mill for two years. Why not put that towards NIL encourage the good players to stay and maybe some other talent to come? Kids are going to Akron for one of three reasons: a.) they have no other Division 1 offers b.) they believe that the program is so bad that they can come here get playing time early, get film and bounce in no more than two years to get paid c.) somehow Akron has the financial backing to entice them with money. I also remember someone posting that the AD or JoeMoe mentioned they wanted to try and raise 1 mill for NIL. That target is probably way high and not achievable certainly not if it is meant just for football. But maybe it's the "shoot for the stars land on the moon" and get half of that to encourage borderline players to stay and others to come in. College football is all about who is going to pay the most for the athletes. If you can't or won't pay, your level of athlete is going to drop down several Tiers. Texas allegedly spent $280,000.00 just on Archie's Official Visit alone. What do athlete's coming here get for an official visit? Hotel, dinner, tour of the campus and probably a promise to get the chance to play right away.