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Look at the historical average of the S&P 500.

That's pretty much it. Yeah, Akron's a tough job. No one's pretending it's easy. Joe isn't the type of coach that has any chance of thriving at this sort of tough job. Carney...just might be the type who can thrive at a Kent-type job. As an aside, how about a Chris Creighton at EMU (EMU being the actual type of job that many here think Akron is), who is 61-82 at a school whose last three coaches (and related interims) were 39-125. While his record isn't exactly stellar, if a guy can get EMU to five bowl games in 12 years...under current rules, between 1987 (their actual last bowl) and when Creighton arrived in 2014, they'd have had 3 or 4 bowl appearances (they had four years with an eligible record, but two FCS wins in 2011 would disqualify them without a waiver). If Eastern Michigan can go bowling about half the time...Akron should be able to reach that goal. But it will take work and the correct next hire when Joe leaves. That, traditionally, will be the tough part of this equation.

It's coming back to me why I am happy at the end of a Zips football season and sad at the end of a Zips basketball season.

Keep Dall by any means necessary. Pay that man!!

And they presumably had the 38 staff personnel when they were going 1-23 correct? The only thing that changed was HC? DeShields isn't a really good QB. He has a 46.4 QBR this year (104th in the country). He has only had 3 200+ passing yard games this season, with Akron being his only 300+ passing yard game. Akron needs to get to Kent-level staffing, I agree. Them having a GM is interesting as well. However, the X's & O's, the motivation capabilities, and the execution on the field matter more than anything. That's my gripe with JoeMo.

S&P 500 the past few years. Get you money out of the coffee can in the pantry grandpa. 2024, 23 percent 2023, 24 percent 2022, 18 percent 2021, 28 percent 2020, 18 percent

The MAC commissioner works for us. If the membership isn't demanding a parole from weeknight games, we have bigger problems than I think.

More than the Zips. Kent Coaches and Support staff 22 coaches. including 4 grad assistants 12 support staff Akron Coaches and Support Staff 12 coaches, zero grad assistants 6 support staff Beyond that, Kent practiced 25% more than Akron was allowed, and most of that is on Arth. And...I'm note re-re-re-typing all the other stuff. Kent beat Akron in OT because they have a really good QB. They probably even have some NIL money to keep him.

Your point isn't wrong. I just want to emphasize this item here. I don't know what the AD and the department did differently for the Kent game. But it worked. And I hope dearly they do a bunch more of it going into next year, because with actual Saturday games, they could actually get a real crowd for a couple of them (provided the team is at least competent, which was definitely hit and miss this year).

If an AD is good at his job, this is an easy call.

i thought Stroh Stadium was not nice at all. i have been to MANY high school stadiums that were nicer than it. A LOT nicer than it. I don't see how any fan that has actually been to it in person can say that it is a nice stadium. they don't even have restrooms... portopotties only. and the "big screen" looks like a 75" tv that u can't see anything on.

Do it right or don't do it at all. Don't expect fans to commit to the program any more than the university commits to it.

On a Saturday, please?

You'll need to call the MAC commissioner for that to happen! Good luck!📞

How much more is Kent investing this year to win back the Wagon Wheel and potentially go bowling? Multiple things can be true. 1) The program needs better financial support. The University needs to quit half-assing football and commit to building a program worth supporting. 2) JoeMo isn't the right guy for the job. From X's & O's to an ego too large to win over donors - he's just not it.

I was at the game last night. The Akron Stadium is much much nicer than Bowling Green Stadium. It was their last home game of the year obviously it was their senior night and it was far from a sellout crowd, even though they had a retired NFL player head coach. in my opinion, Joe is not going anywhere. He will be back next year and this form will be just as entertaining with all the haters on it next year I do personally hope he does better and I hope the team does better. I really want to see the zips succeed and I like the direction they are going. I hope the athletic director could find a way to support the program and hopefully the real fans start to come out and support it as well.

I'd like to see a Marketing plan that even approaches mediocre and see what happens. Obviously you need to win. Lather, rinse and repeat. And to do that, you need to invest. You can't save your way to #1. If you want to fill a stadium, play Kent the first game of the year. Only morons schedule the Kent game in November. You'll get 20k+. Boom - The stadium is filled for 1 game every other season. That's 10% of the home games at capacity every 2 seasons. I have more. But that's all I give without a stipend.

You can have the greatest marketing plan ever made but if there is no demand for your product it won't make any difference.

Really fantastic post. I'll just add even on many games days it sits mostly empty.

Will take full advantage and sit in empty spots since I have GA STH tickets

I'll disagree on these points. Multiple administrations have said "I wouldn't have built that stadium" and subsequently been let off the hook. Their lack of Athletics Marketing acumen is as boarder line criminal as their ability to run a D1 Athletics program. If Joe would have been told he'd have the smallest staff in D1, lowest budget, can't travel to recruit, no player meal plan, 25% fewer practices than the competition, and in 4 years other programs will be buying his best players and he'll need to completely rebuild annually...I don't think he'd have agreed to be the man.

Why is there not more done with the stadium in the offseason? Concerts, events, etc.

No other MAC school has a $5 million note payment every year for a facilitie that sits empty for 90% of the year. Multiple administration's have tried everything you could think of to create interest. A nice 15,000 seat stadium would have been perfect. Mack Rhoades and others were sure if we built it, they would come. They didn't come. JoMo knew what he was getting into when he agreed to be the man. There is plenty of blame to go around. Hopefully Goodrich can find a different type of unicorn. A rich donor who is willing to give millions to support football. Odds are that guy is going to want some input on who is running the program. People with that type of money expect a return on their investment.

Parade someone like Eddie George through their door and see what happens.

We have donors who have contributed that much to Akron Athletics to create endowments. Just not for football. BTW, if you could share with me where I can get a guaranteed 10% return on my $2 million please send me a DM.