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We've been waiting a lot longer than that. The question I have is this. Are the people managing the coach good at managing based upon the two criteria I was presented when I was younger? It seems to me that when there is coaching turnover, the response to it by upper management is almost always the same in college sports, although we didn't do this when hiring Joe. When there is turnover or a desire to make a change, the ADs reach in to their tires bad of tricks and call an overpriced coaching recruiting firm to do a search. That firm reaches into their tired bag of recycled hacks and pulls out some names. A new head coach is hired. This all sounds to me like a collosal and lazy waste of money. Do any of the dummies who run athletic departments ever reach out to an organization like the NFL Players Association? The NFL PA is in charge of managing retiree benefits so they are probably regularly in touch with former players. I would think the nflpa would want to help their members in this way. Here, I'll write the letter to the NFLPA for every AD in America since most are not even slightly this creative, and what I'm doing isn't all that creative to begin with. Here it goes. Dear Mr. Reeves-Maybin, I am the Athletic Director at School X. School X has many active and retired members of your organization as former players. Included in this group are Chase Blackburn of the NY Giants Super Bowl winning team, Victory Green of the Jets and Patriots, and Hall of Famer Jason Taylor. Currently , I am conducting a search for a new Head Coach for our football program.and am looking for networking support. I believe former NFL players could provide great value to School X and the young men they would lead, and I would respectfully request that you make your retired members and their representatives aware of this great opportunity. The changing landscape of college football presents many possibilities for former professional players and if any of them are interested in talking with me, I'm interested in talking to them. Below are links to the job description and application. Link to job description. Link to application. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me. My contact information is below. Sincerely, Blah blah blah Then Akron could do something like posting the letter to social media and tagging the NFLPA along with the NFL itself and any other party of interest.

Akron actually moved up a spot in this week's Top Drawer poll despite the loss. Up to #13. Vermont actually dropped from #10 to #11 but they did draw with Dartmouth on Tuesday which explains why. https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-national-rankings/men

Clearly we're waiting for Moorhead 's contract to expire so we can hire a 6-5 FCS coach whose school is glad to get rid of him. That'll get excitement back to the program.

This is a good post and paints a clear view of the reality. We need two things badly. They are problems 1A and 1B. We need a coach who can both make it attractive for people to spend money on NIL and manage turnover in large numbers up front. A smart guy once told me about being a manager is that the two most important things to manage are safety and turnover. If you can't manage those, you can't manage. Same for college football coaches. We don't need some child with a lot of energy but no experience. We don't need a money guy who has no experience in dealing with turnover. We need guys like Dieon Sanders and Eddie George. Their names attract money and the NFL is a great place for people to learn about turnover as NFL rosters are relatively fluid from year to year. They weren't in the NFL for five minutes. Their long careers exposed them to a great deal and they seem like smart guys. God knows they don't need the money. Is it impossible for us to get someone like this? I don't think so. Jackson State and BG did it. Colorado quickly went from a laughing stock to some level of respectability. BG is playing well. Former NFL players are chomping at the bit for a college head coaching gig. The problem many have is they don't want to work their way up the ladder, and I'm not sure they are wrong about that. I'm not sure I would want to make $100 million and then work as a grad assistant or low level assistant for someone I would be confident I understood more about football and the organizational structure of what has now become professional football than they do. What are we waiting for?

Women's college volleyball is a blast to watch. That's one women's sport that when I watch & honestly think, "Dang!! They'd wipe the court with me if I were out there!"

If the talent is not there it doesn't matter who the coach is. If the players are getting paid to go to other colleges why would they come to akron? bring in your young coach full of pee and vinegar maybe the best mind in coaching if he cannot bring in the talent it isn't going to matter at all. as soon as the last game ended last year, instead of celebrating the players were immediately talking about how it was time to get paid and they were gone. that's the mentality of the college athletes with NIL now. There is no loyalty to the university it's show me the money. Jomoe doesn't need the money, why stay if he didn't care? Especially since the majority of the posts in here say he can go elsewhere? Maybe what he complains about aren't excuses it's him trying to point out what needs to change so they program can recruit the better talent and convince it to stay so they can build a program.

Akron needs a HC that needs Akron as much as we need them. A D1 gig that will serve as a stepping stone something bigger. Someone young, hungry, willing to truly accept what the situation is and work tirelessly to somehow overcome it. Joe Moorhead isn't that. He knows if/when this doesn't work out, he'll have a soft landing with a coordinator gig. That isn't to say he isn't and hasn't worked hard, I'm sure he has. But he's just not what Akron needs at this point in time IMO.

The issue with JoeMo goes beyond the X's and O's. He's a poor leader of men, doesn't adapt, and seemingly has zero issue using excuses as a crutch. NIL won't help with the intangibles he lacks as a head coach. @catdaddyp has broken down the talent on this roster that JoeMo consistently underachieves with. We need a coach to say to Hell with the BS, we're going to win some damn football games. Someone has to possess this type of attitude that's required to hold those above him and around him accountable, and turn around this program. That's an absurd statement. The University of Akron is a public higher education institution that literally does nothing but spend others' money, and they do it poorly. I was merely pointing out the importance of a donor stepping up and funding the termination of JoeMo so the program can move forward, just like we've seen at a number of other schools. It would be awesome if the football program could find their Bud Wentz, someone who is so passionate about the Zips that he does whatever it takes and is creative in boosting the football program.

Great crowd. Respectful fans. Those around me were very complimentary of Ashton Kamdem and rightfully so. First time our 2025 Zips have trailed. Very impressed by how they handled the adversity on the road with a large opposing crowd, a missed call which could have resulted in a leading goal, and being down a goal. Didn’t stop playing to score and didn’t give up another goal! Lots to build upon. Proud of this team and happy to have been there. GO ZIPS!!!

Fair enough. I just think that if a potential hiring program looked at the game film and saw some of the play calling and lack of fundamentals and discipline they be a little apprehensive.

Bingo. It's pretty well known around college football that Akron is pretty close to impossible to win at.

I really don’t think so, I’m sure he would get a power five OC job easily. Despite what we think, he is still very well respected as a good offensive mind. Akron’s budget (or lack thereof), lack of any NIL money, and overall lack of hope actually works in his favor because all coaches know how hard it is to win here. They know he’s in a hopeless situation so his value isn’t diminished.

It probably hurts it some. Like I'm not sure if OSU, Texas, LSU, etc OC vacancy opened up that he would be in the running. At the same time I'm sure he could land an OC position at a Purdue, Minnesota, Boston College, etc. He's been in the business for a long time so he has connections.

Schools like this have much more in their calculations. Akron just has money. Either they can afford to fire Joe, or not.

Meaning what? How will failing at the Graveyard of Coaches hurt his career or money making potential? Keep in mind Arth is the passing coordinator for an NFL team.

I'm thinking old Joe's value in the college football universe has taken a nosedive after leading one of the most inept programs in the nation.

Not trying to stir the pot at all, but why would anyone think that getting rid of joe is going to solve anything? the players that can are going to go where they can get money. until akron starts having money to pay the players akron will be a stepping stone. kids will come here because "it's D1" and they will hope to get film to bounce as soon as they can. example marcus moore left being a starter to get "paid" and is fourth string at purdue- hasn't played a snap. over half of Akrons team wasn't even on the roster last year. i don't agree with some player decisions that are playing and getting an absurd amount of playing time, there is only one starter from last on offense 2 if u count polk... an entirely new defensive line except bruno who stands out because nobody is doing anything. he is barely average to D1 ends. there are only 99 d ends in ALL of D1 who are ranked LOWER than Durham, yet he has more snaps than anyone on defense. it is a very tough position for any coach

The Big 10 pays out something like $63 million per school each year. That's before even selling a single game ticket or anything else. You can afford a buy out when you're rolling into that kind of money. If Akron's athletic department was generating that kind of money this wouldn't even be a discussion. We'd also be attracting a better pool of candidates.

UCLA and Virginia Tech decided today keeping their failed head coaches was more costly than getting rid of them. So I guess it's doable even when UCLA's stadium was 80% empty. Wild.

Speaking of Gaucho Dan, UC-Santa Barbara are playing #10 Marshall in Huntington right now I believe. Update: It's 1-0 Herd in the 25th mi ute.

Agreed. There is too much in it for him to resign.

Well I hope so. But I think the Zips are going to have to fire him. The new AD has his opportunity to prove he's serious about improving the program.

If Joe leaves, he'll be on staff somewhere as a coordinator or assistant making as much as he does at Akron.

4-6 D3 schools don't pay that much for coordinators, and what he's doing with this offense isn't going to get him interest from anything better than that

This is the day every coach firing fan lives for.