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Our old friend GT made the following stellar observation in his article about the game- Another key difference was getting big man Deng Riak involved. Riak added 14 points and led the team with seven rebounds. It proved to be a vast difference from the season opener when it looked as if the 6-foot-10, 225-pound transfer from East Carolina University was virtually forgotten. Apparently, GT wasn't at the Cedarville game. Against Cedarville, he played 25 minutes and had 7 field goal attempts and 6 free throw attempts. Against YSU, he played 26 minutes and had 8 field goal attempts and 3 free throw attempts. I guess one fewer minute put him in the class of virtually forgotten. I get more from reviewing the box score than I get from a GT article.

This is not about how many picks Woodson threw in any game. As I said earlier, do not hang this on Ramart. One game is not a career. What Bowden has not been able to do in 7 seasons is, develop a consistently good offensive line(they do not have one now), develop any CONSISTENT running game (even though every week he keeps harping about having to run the ball),develop CONSISTENT discipline on the field(stupid penalties,blown assignments and the inability to develop a solid QB who can lead an offense(that's also another reason the OC has to come under some severe scrutiny). Maybe these guys will surprise and win out. But,as I also said earlier, the AD has to take responsibility for the call. The interim Prez is not likely to want to get involved. Hell' he's a Poly Sci guy.

As Dennis Green said, "You are what your record says you are." The anger isn't over the last game. It's over several years of all the issues that previous posters have mentioned. I am not blaming a frosh QB getting his first start. He did the best he could. I blame a coaching staff that does not have a viable back up on the roster and did not have the frosh ready to play. We got 29 yards from our passing game. I blame a staff that cannot recruit offensive lineman to a school with the best facilities in the MAC. I blame a coach and OC that cannot establish a running game to help out a frosh QB in his first start. Even giving TB a huge pass (which I do) for taking over the worst program in DI football, you cannot say this is a one game issue. I loved the TB hire and I thought he was the best coach available. I do not love the terrible play calling and lack of solid game planning. Our team discipline is poor and we seldom, if ever, make in-game adjustments. I am not one who rushes to fire coaches. There is no guarantee that next one will be better. The guy most of ZN wanted before TB was hired declined to take an interview with us b/c the program was such a dumpster fire. TB actually contacted us about the job or we probably would not have landed him. I am ok if they fire him or if he comes back, but he has to have a new OC if he returns. The big question is this. Do you really feel that the of development (or lack thereof) of the offense over the past several years warrants Milwee keeping his job?

Akron and Charlotte are the two teams in the RPI top 16 ....that did not get byes.... #17 Denver and #19 Syracuse are the two teams that got seeded instead New Hampshire, which had a 18 rpi....in effect..got seeded #32 as they would have to face #1 Wake in the round of 32 By facing #16 Syracuse(after the Rider matchup), Akron was probably the #17 seed

Who do you blame it on? The refs? The coaches are the ones who recruit the players. The coaches are the ones responsible for developing the players. The coaches are the ones who make the game plans. The coaches are the ones who call the plays. This isn't the NFL where coaches have to coach the roster their GM provides them. Bowden and Milwee hand picked every player they have on the offensive side of the ball. Edit: Nobody here is asking for Akron to be Ohio State or Michigan. We expect to be able to compete against the top echelon teams of the MAC, which we haven't been able to do and we're in year 7. Any other FBS school would fire a coach that has only had 1 winning season in 7 years, yet somehow the fans asking for change are the irrational ones? I'm done with discussion. Enjoy your 9AM tee time with Bowden & Milwee because clearly you guys must be best buddies to not see some sort of change is needed.

Zips are peaking at the right time. Squad improved 100% over past month. RPI is #14 and SOS is #10. 10 wins total with 4 Top50 wins. Plenty of pedigree in the past decade. I say Zips get one of the last 4 seeds and do not play until weekend.

Nobody is blaming'every single loss on coaching'. What objective fans are doing is looking at patterns over the past 7 seasons. Just because some think all fans are idiots doesn't mean its true. Some fans can actually watch ballgames and understand what is and is not happening. This is not personal for most folks. But after 7 seasons this program should not be losing its first two conference games. It should not be getting waxed by the NIU's MU's,UB's and EMU's. The offense should not be as pathetic as it has been. That is seen most markedly in the poor O-line play and lack of a running game. This is finally about being consistently competitive with the best programs in the MAC. Clearly this program is not.

FWIW, I noticed Saturday that Cleveland State has 30 cheerleaders and 8 total pep band members.

here is a statement....that makes my very proud of akron zips soccer When postseason play begins, the Zips will join an elite group of just four Division I programs that have qualified for the NCAA Championships in each of the past 12 seasons. Only Indiana, Maryland, and Virginia can share that claim.

Two STRONG wins to open the season, as Stony Brook has beaten both George Washington (A10) and South Carolina (SEC). Good for Jeff Boals! http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2619

The holiday tournament exemption allows for 4 additional games. The tournament itself is only 3 games. The Zips claiming this as part of the Cayman Islands tournament pretty much enables the Zips to have an extra home game. It's honestly fairly common for teams to do this and if you look you'll probably see all 8 participating teams have a campus game.

They returned a lot of talent from last years team that knocked off Arizona in the tourney. They were already on many peoples radar because of that. Without last years tourney win they probably still wouldn't be in the top 25 right now.

I'm still shocked that it took them one win to get into the top 25. Syracuse, Marquette, and St Bonnies will be stiff tests. Zips get their first shot at UB 2/12/19 at the JAR, good news for the developing Zips.

It did not help that: 1.) WE lost available games against ND and UCONN 2.) we let the regular season game against W.Virg get away and lost at N.ILL

Well I called it correctly on the RPI thread: Akron was in danger of getting bumped out of the top 16 by Denver and Syracuse ... But the forthcoming wins over Cuse and Wake will just make the trip to Santa Barbara all that much sweeter!

Agreed looks like we were #17. A lot better than I expected after the Nothern Illinois game.

Link to info regarding today's selection show and other bracket info ... https://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men/article/2018-11-11/ncaa-soccer-division-i-mens-2018-tournament-bracket-be-announced

Sorry I missed it in the other thread. Haven’t had enough time with all the travel to see everything that’s been posted. Thanks to you, buflobo, and all who have been diligent in keeping us all up to date.

I finally got my season tickets in the mail. I'll see you all at the game

To be fair, he didn't specify who was virtually forgetting Riak. He could have dozed off and virtually forgotten everyone by the time he started writing

That is really good. I had posted this video under the morgantown topic....in a tweet from Evan Bush....(supporting the zips) but it is great to have its own topic

I saw GT at the Cedarville game... Cannot confirm that he was awake the whole time though

Now that I've returned from a long day of travel from Brunswick, OH to Morgantown, WV and back through Mineral City, OH for the 2nd time in 3 days and gotten a good night's rest, I have to say I couldn't be more pleased at how this great group of players has responded to the challenges of coming together as a team and other adversity over which they had no control this season. Thank you Coach Embick, Staff, and players... All Hail Akron Men's Soccer 2018 !!! GO ZIPS!!!

Ohio's Marquael Parks is a big-time playmaker Marquael Parks highlights from Orrville's 50 - 43 three overtime playoff win vs. previously unbeaten Gilmour Academy -over 200 yards rushing, 5 TDs including a 55 yard reception and all three overtime TDs

The Zips start their trip to Grand Cayman at 10am on Saturday. I hope they don't look past the Cougars.

Current top 25...zip opponents in bold 1Wake Forest 17 -2-0 .6920 2Indiana 17-2-1 .6790 3Louisville 11-4-3 .6547 Louisville won ACC tourney - win over wake forest on friday and N. Carolina today 4North Carolina 14-3-1 .6447 5Kentucky 17-1-1 .6295 this is a very good team ...wins over Indiana and Louisville in regular season won their league tourney today with win over Charlotte...jumped them from 9 to 5 in rpi 6Notre Dame 10-6-2 .6274 7Virginia 9-3-3 .6229 lost in ACC round of 16 to Pitt 8Saint Mary's 17-0-1 .6151 9Stanford 11-3-4 .6118 Stanford has had to play #1 Wake in the quarters for a few years in a row...will committee seed Stanford 6 or 7 to avoid them playing Wake again 10Virginia Tech 10-6-3 .6022 11Duke 10-6-2 .5991 6 ACC teams in top 11 12Maryland 8-6-4 .5944 13UCF 13-2-3 .5920 14Akron 10-6-2 .5899 number 10 in strength of schedule...opponent strength of schedule is 28 15Georgetown 12-4-3 .5884 won big east ..4-0 win over Providence on friday.2-0 win over marquette today 16Charlotte 14-4-1 .5867 17Denver 15-3-2 .5860 116 strength of schedule 18New Hampshire 12-3-2 .5815 19Syracuse 7-6-4 .5790 20Rhode Island 15-4-0 .5781 99 strenght of schedule 21West Virginia 13-6-0 .5761 22Washington 12-7-0 .5755 23UC Irvine 11-5-3 .5738 24Connecticut 11-5-2 .5645 I wonder if they wish that they had played the zips 25NC State 9-6-3 .5624

Selection show watch party

despite the 4 int Woodson was 21 of 39 for 200 yards, and ramart was 4 of 15 for 29 yards -- big difference

listen to the tournament MVP

There is just no way Milwee can be back here next season. Hell, he shouldn't even finish the season, but TB is loyal to a fault. It was so painful watching EMU blitz the opposite side of where the running back was lined up every play because this offense literally only has one running play. There was no chance before these plays were even ran. Making it a point to email my displeasure to L. Williams this week. My first want is Milwee gone. My second is TB gone if he refuses to make the change. Link to his contact info: https://gozips.com/staff.aspx?staff=1

Balsy, you’ve been loyal, for sure. When you drop the “ rah rah”, that says something, and I’m with YOU!

Naaaah, they get to play on Tuesday nights on ESPN 27.

Bob has been officially hired by Chris Sabo as part of his recruiting staff.

Whatever...the same people keep harping on the same points that we already have 2 other threads devoted to beating the dead horse. It really gets old. This is G5 life, folks. and it isn't going to change. The NCAA is content to let talented kids sit on P5 benches and never see the light of day while their coaches promise them a chance they will never get.

It's a good thing....they have a better ability to see big piccture than some, here, who blame every single loss on coaching.

Hilltopper told us last week that Hester is no longer with the team.