clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, zips4life20 said: aging well ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 I wonder if this team's run will result in the return of some of the fair weather blue seaters who departed when KD left. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 14, 2022 Report Share Posted March 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: I wonder if this team's run will result in the return of some of the fair weather blue seaters who departed when KD left. the seats were filled at the end of the 2020 season. COVID was a bigger culprit. Having that proven winning team will bring them back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zips4life20 Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 9:27 AM, clarkwgriswold said: ??? this is what i said.. Very Typical of John Groce teams. 5 or 6 MAC loses then run the tourney. never finished higher than 3rd in the east at OU but didnt have issues winning the tourney or getting post season wins. He reminds me a lot of Tom Izzo. Realizes the regular season is practice for the postseason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 Well to his credit, Groce did win the MAC regular season in 2020 and 3rd in the conference (would have been 2nd in East) in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, LZIp said: Well to his credit, Groce did win the MAC regular season in 2020 and 3rd in the conference (would have been 2nd in East) in 2021. I didn't think it was a slam on Groce. The regular season is largely meaningless and truly is practice for the postseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: I didn't think it was a slam on Groce. The regular season is largely meaningless and truly is practice for the postseason. I didn't necessarily think so either, more so just pointing it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 I wouldn't necessarily say the regular season is meaningless. It still matters for seeding (both in Cleveland and in the tourney) and also can secure a NIT bid bid as a consolation prize, which is vastly better than CBI bid. The tournament definitely carries more weight. No doubt about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: I wouldn't necessarily say the regular season is meaningless. It still matters for seeding (both in Cleveland and in the tourney) and also can secure a NIT bid bid as a consolation prize, which is vastly better than CBI bid. The tournament definitely carries more weight. No doubt about that. I definitely want to be in the top 3 next year. The 4-5 MAC Tourney quarterfinal round is a tough road. Though it did make it fun running the Buffalo-Toledo-KSUcks gauntlet. Edited March 15, 2022 by Blue & Gold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zipsrule Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: I definitely want to be in the top 3 next year. The 4-5 MAC Tourney quarterfinal round is a tough road. Though it did make it fun running the Buffalo-Toledo-KSUcks gauntlet. Completely agree. While it makes a nice run if you win, it's not a path you want every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: I definitely want to be in the top 3 next year. The 4-5 MAC Tourney quarterfinal round is a tough road. Though it did make it fun running the Buffalo-Toledo-KSUcks gauntlet. Agree. This regular season doesn't count schtick is a risky maneuver. That 4/5 game was inches or a bank shot away from ending all this on Thursday. I think this year Groce and Ford needed to adapt on the fly. Next year probably wont need to do that. Between 2010 and 2012, was 2011 and DJ Cooper and friends were a 5 seed and lost in the quarters to Ball State a 4 seed in OT. I would love to see a replay of that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 15, 2022 Report Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 hours ago, NWAkron said: Agree. This regular season doesn't count schtick is a risky maneuver. That 4/5 game was inches or a bank shot away from ending all this on Thursday. I think this year Groce and Ford needed to adapt on the fly. Next year probably wont need to do that. Between 2010 and 2012, was 2011 and DJ Cooper and friends were a 5 seed and lost in the quarters to Ball State a 4 seed in OT. I would love to see a replay of that game. I vaguely remember this game. It was a very late game when that side of the bracket used to play in the evening. There was a handful of Ball State fans that had a box of pom poms that were red and white. My buddy and I went up to them and asked if we could have some and they were gracious enough to give us some. We cheered our butts off against OU that night! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyolcrowe Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 Xavier job opened up today. That’s the only job that scares me about reaching out to Groce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/15/2022 at 10:48 AM, zips4life20 said: this is what i said.. Very Typical of John Groce teams. 5 or 6 MAC loses then run the tourney. never finished higher than 3rd in the east at OU but didnt have issues winning the tourney or getting post season wins. He reminds me a lot of Tom Izzo. Realizes the regular season is practice for the postseason Gotcha. I didn't get the reference to the Ball State post I made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, dirtyolcrowe said: Xavier job opened up today. That’s the only job that scares me about reaching out to Groce. With the current team plus next year's incoming class, I'm hoping Groce would be here at least a few more years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, dirtyolcrowe said: Xavier job opened up today. That’s the only job that scares me about reaching out to Groce. They just beat CSU yesterday to advance in the NIT. Seems like odd timing to fire your head coach while you're in the middle of a post-season tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, dirtyolcrowe said: Xavier job opened up today. That’s the only job that scares me about reaching out to Groce. "There's always a chance, too, that an established coach with a pretty good gig sees Xavier as an opportunity for a reset. (A la Shaka Smart leaving Texas for Marquette last offseason.) Who that would be is anyone's guess. Beyond that, you get to the standard list of successful mid-major coaches, some of whom are relatively local: Cleveland State's Dennis Gates, Wright State's Scott Nagy, Toledo's Tod Kowalczyk." From The Athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hilltopper said: "There's always a chance, too, that an established coach with a pretty good gig sees Xavier as an opportunity for a reset. (A la Shaka Smart leaving Texas for Marquette last offseason.) Who that would be is anyone's guess. Beyond that, you get to the standard list of successful mid-major coaches, some of whom are relatively local: Cleveland State's Dennis Gates, Wright State's Scott Nagy, Toledo's Tod Kowalczyk." From The Athletic Imagine Toledo losing Tod K after choking their best opportunity to win the MAC in 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: They just beat CSU yesterday to advance in the NIT. Seems like odd timing to fire your head coach while you're in the middle of a post-season tournament Barely beat CSU, who had a player shorter than Big Dog but twice as wide. And that firing is a reminder that those power conference schools see their coaches as expendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, NWAkron said: Barely beat CSU, who had a player shorter than Big Dog but twice as wide. And that firing is a reminder that those power conference schools see their coaches as expendable. Which is a huge reason for Groce to stay at Akron. He can build something special here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, NWAkron said: Barely beat CSU, who had a player shorter than Big Dog but twice as wide. And that firing is a reminder that those power conference schools see their coaches as expendable. Yes, I'm not surprised he was fired. Just that they didn't wait to until after the NIT to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 Roo Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 My opinion is that Groce will leave for a better position right before his kids go to high school because once in HS he may not want to pull them out. Knowing the family man he is I think he cares about their experiences and does not want to disrupt those years by moving. His son is 12 BTW. There are big reasons for him to stay for the time being. Such as: He loves his players and he has great teams coming for the next 2-3 years He wants to build a legacy here before he goes He likes the area and the passion of the fans He likes working for Guthrie and Miller. They are all aligned Guthrie will refurbish the JAR, bringing more seats and students to the lower bowl, taking out the plexiglass barrier, redoing the floor, bringing collapsable seats out over the track on all sides. Guthrie will do that within 2 years Groce has lobbied for a separate practice facility which he will get this summer I believe all these things will keep him here for a while, but in the end he still wants to coach at a school that will allow him to win a national championship. That's why I believe he will leave one day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 The Butler job has opened up. Might Groce be interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, LoyalZIP said: The Butler job has opened up. Might Groce be interested? Naw, they play in a dingy old barn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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