clarkwgriswold Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 9 hours ago, 94zipgrad said: Can’t afford him, he had the YSU job but was unrealistic I'd not heard it was a money issue. I'd heard he was in line to get it then got back doored by a wealthy alum and backroom politics. Quote
zippy5 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 9 hours ago, 94zipgrad said: Can’t afford him, he had the YSU job but was unrealistic Can't afford the guy coaching high school? Okay Quote
94zipgrad Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: Can't afford the guy coaching high school? Okay I’m telling you he had the YSU job & demanded to much money, heard from someone close to the situation Quote
94zipgrad Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said: I'd not heard it was a money issue. I'd heard he was in line to get it then got back doored by a wealthy alum and backroom politics. That could be, wasn’t that close to situation but person that told me has direct relationship with YSU football 1 Quote
zippy5 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, 94zipgrad said: I’m telling you he had the YSU job & demanded to much money, heard from someone close to the situation I am not saying you're wrong. But if he's holding out to make P5 money he's gonna be waiting a while. Personally, I'm not even sure he's qualified for YSU let alone the UA job. Quote
94zipgrad Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I am not saying you're wrong. But if he's holding out to make P5 money he's gonna be waiting a while. Personally, I'm not even sure he's qualified for YSU let alone the UA job. I agree Quote
blueandgold Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 Just thinking out loud and not much research, but what about either of these two? They are coaches from a couple of the top programs at the FCS level. Jay Hill HC of Weber State or Bobby Hauck, HC of Montana. Jay is a fairly young guy, mid 40's. Quote
GP1 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 This story seems to have gone pretty cold. Quote
NWAkron Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, GP1 said: This story seems to have gone pretty cold. ha. I was just thinking that. Quote
kreed5120 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 When was the last time a coach made the jump from HS to FBS and had any success? Is there even an example of a HS coach getting an FBS job in the last 20 years? Frankly I feel recruiting experience at the collegiate level is too important to consider any HS coach. I don't really have any names to drop as anyone that has a decent track record is probably well outside our budget. We will probably end up with a G5 assistant or a FCS/D2 head coach given the budget we will have to spend. Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: When was the last time a coach made the jump from HS to FBS and had any success? Is there even an example of a HS coach getting an FBS job in the last 20 years? Frankly I feel recruiting experience at the collegiate level is too important to consider any HS coach. I don't really have any names to drop as anyone that has a decent track record is probably well outside our budget. We will probably end up with a G5 assistant or a FCS/D2 head coach given the budget we will have to spend. Agreed. I brought up Tyrrell as he's brought up in nearly every other conversation on here. I'm not sure he's ready for the jump. As far as successes, successes and failures are pretty few and far between as the sample size is very small. Lots of guys who went from high school to be an assistant then to HC on a college level (Freeze, Malzahn). The only one I can think of who made the big jump successfully was that dirtbag Art Briles. Edited January 22, 2021 by clarkwgriswold Quote
72 Roo Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 I think Tyrrell is ready to be a MAC OC. His play calling is exceptional. You never know what he is going to do (In other words the complete opposite of Milwee, had to get that dig in, he has left so many scars on my brain). I've seen a dozen games of coach Tyrrell and he has yet to be second best in anything. 1 Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 I'd say that UA's chances of hiring a high school coach are increased by the fact that they're likely to have a high school budget for any hire. 2 Quote
ZippyRulz Posted January 23, 2021 Report Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Good on Chuckie! When you think about it, between college and pro football there are a ton of coaching jobs out there. Edited January 23, 2021 by ZippyRulz Quote
John Ward Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 6 hours ago, LZIp said: Thats great for Charlie. I know he spent time at Ashland but sources tell me he was a threat to the good ole boy system there and Im sure didn’t care for the Owen politics and the cult like atmosphere. Anyone else hear anything about this? Quote
LZIp Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) So by my count, 2 former Zips QBs are QB coaches in the NFL. Pretty cool. I would think if Arth were to get hired he would be the same, maybe OC I guess. I don't think the position was ever revealed. Speaking of the position, I thought Thamel said a decision would be made by the end of the week. So if its going to happen I'd think we'd hear by today and assume no news means he's staying? Football Scoop doesn't show any Chargers coaches being hired yet. Edited January 24, 2021 by LZIp Quote
Blue & Gold Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) ^^Posted this a.m. by Coach Rodriguez. I'm guessing Arth's staying. (Though what a cushy gig - NFL QB coach in southern CA. Lol.) Edited January 24, 2021 by Blue & Gold 1 Quote
DannyHoke Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 Arth is not going anywhere. San Diego informed him on Saturday he is no longer being considered. Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DannyHoke said: Arth is not going anywhere. San Diego informed him on Saturday he is no longer being considered. Now how many wins in 2021 to be considered appropriate progress? Quote
NWAkron Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, zipsoutsider said: Now how many wins in 2021 to be considered appropriate progress? 2 Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 My expectation when he was hired was 1-3 wins season one, 3-5 season two, compete in the MAC season three. I guess I need to adjust those expectations. From one win, there are a lot of things that could be considered progress. However, this is the year that "reasons" start sounding like excuses. Changing the culture, building character and better grades won't carry the day if the if the on the field product is again bad. 1 Quote
72 Roo Posted January 24, 2021 Report Posted January 24, 2021 When you are in a total rebuild there are many factors that limit a linear progression in games won. You have to rebuild the base first such as recruits, culture, expectations. That being said coach has had the time to do all that. He has to put some W's up. I expect 3-4 wins next season despite a killer schedule. 1 Quote
zipsoutsider Posted January 25, 2021 Report Posted January 25, 2021 Bowden was 5-7, including a win over Pitt in year 3. The Arth "rebuild" is nothing like what Bowden faced. I don't think 5 wins is a lot to ask in year 3. I honestly dont see how the team gets to 5 wins in 2021. Quote
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