Game 10- Western Michigan

[clarkwgriswold]

The Zips head to Kalamazoo on Tuesday the 9th to face the 5-3 Broncos.  The Broncos have beaten Pitt, PCCC, Buffalo, San Jose State and Illinois State while losing to Toledo, Ball State and Michigan.

 

What's better than Tuesday night football in Kalamazoo?   

[GoZips86]

Just another game to fuel Guthrie to get rid of Arth. We can all likely guess the outcome here of this game. 

[LZIp]

9 minutes ago, GoZips86 said:

Just another game to fuel Guthrie to get rid of Arth. We can all likely guess the outcome here of this game. 

Unless Guthrie has a guy he is 110% certain to turn this program around on consistent basis into the future, firing Arth this season isn’t a good move for him IMO. Giving Arth the chance to make real progress in the year he had the highest chance to all along is like having a free bet. If it doesn’t work, he fires him and hires his guy. If it does work, well he gets credit for patience. Why not give yourself two chances to have success rather than one (which is all he would get if/once he fires Arth)?

[NWAkron]

16 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Unless Guthrie has a guy he is 110% certain to turn this program around on consistent basis into the future, firing Arth this season isn’t a good move for him IMO. Giving Arth the chance to make real progress in the year he had the highest chance to all along is like having a free bet. If it doesn’t work, he fires him and hires his guy. If it does work, well he gets credit for patience. Why not give yourself two chances to have success rather than one (which is all he would get if/once he fires Arth)?

well said.  

[Spin]

2 hours ago, LZIp said:

Unless Guthrie has a guy he is 110% certain to turn this program around on consistent basis into the future, firing Arth this season isn’t a good move for him IMO. Giving Arth the chance to make real progress in the year he had the highest chance to all along is like having a free bet. If it doesn’t work, he fires him and hires his guy. If it does work, well he gets credit for patience. Why not give yourself two chances to have success rather than one (which is all he would get if/once he fires Arth)?

 

That and we have to pay him anyhow. I'm kind of curious how this team of underclassmen grow. In professional sports they call this an "expansion team". 

 

Then my left brain tells my right brain to STFU.

[clarkwgriswold]

Ride it out for the rest of the season and see how it goes.  No reason to do anything now as there's no one to turn to.  See how the rest of the season plays out and if poorly, can him and move the process quickly so that they don't end up with the leftovers.

[bigjim]

4 hours ago, LZIp said:

Unless Guthrie has a guy he is 110% certain to turn this program around on consistent basis into the future, firing Arth this season isn’t a good move for him IMO. Giving Arth the chance to make real progress in the year he had the highest chance to all along is like having a free bet. If it doesn’t work, he fires him and hires his guy. If it does work, well he gets credit for patience. Why not give yourself two chances to have success rather than one (which is all he would get if/once he fires Arth)?

If Guthrie has any value as an AD, he should have been working on a succession plan for every head coach at the University.  That way, if anyone moves on (promotion or firing), he has a list of candidates that he approves and he can go down the list to hire the one who wants to come to Akron.  If he does not have plans in place that are updated several times a year, Guthrie should be fired immediately.  This is how good business' work.  The teams are sports, the AD is running a business.  

[Ham]

Western will probably be -20.  So was Fruit Jar State.  Our guys have sniffed success and l hope they are hungry.  Anything can happen in the MAC.  I look for another exciting game with ups and downs.  Let's hope the ball bounces in our favor on the 9th.  Zips 37 / Broncos 31.

[LZIp]

27 minutes ago, bigjim said:

If Guthrie has any value as an AD, he should have been working on a succession plan for every head coach at the University.  That way, if anyone moves on (promotion or firing), he has a list of candidates that he approves and he can go down the list to hire the one who wants to come to Akron.  If he does not have plans in place that are updated several times a year, Guthrie should be fired immediately.  This is how good business' work.  The teams are sports, the AD is running a business.  

That probably should be the case, but that isn't how it works in the real world. If it was, search firms wouldn't be a thing.

[NWAkron]

58 minutes ago, Ham said:

Western will probably be -20.  So was Fruit Jar State.  Our guys have sniffed success and l hope they are hungry.  Anything can happen in the MAC.  I look for another exciting game with ups and downs.  Let's hope the ball bounces in our favor on the 9th.  Zips 37 / Broncos 31.

Over the years, some crazy stuff has happened for the Zips in Kalamazoo 

[GoZips86]

17 hours ago, GoZips86 said:

Just another game to fuel Guthrie to get rid of Arth. We can all likely guess the outcome here of this game. 

 

Well, I guess I wasn't too far off the mark. 

[dre22era]

🚨Game Announcement🚨

Our game next Tuesday, at Western Michigan has been scheduled for a 7:00PM EST kickoff on CBS Sports Network. pic.twitter.com/GLoBCfK94v

— Akron Football (@ZipsFB) November 4, 2021

[Blue & Gold]

Per his dad's tweet, Kato's now 4th on the QB depth chart.

 

1. Gibson

2. Irons

3. Jankowski(?)

4. Kato

 

[clarkwgriswold]

Wait, there are still games?

 

On the bright side, it is on the CBS Sports Network so I can't watch it.

[LoyalZIP]

This spread might be north of 30 points.

[Captain Kangaroo]

25 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Per his dad's tweet, Kato's now 4th on the QB depth chart.

 

1. Gibson

2. Irons

3. Jankowski(?)

4. Kato

 

Coach O Rod doing things #hisway

 

If anything it will be interesting to see the changes O Rod implements. Obviously he can’t make any major scheme changes in 7 days. But there might be some “Arth favorites” being replaced by guys that he likes better. Could Zips Grandma get her wish next Tuesday?

[Blue & Gold]

3 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Coach O Rod doing things #hisway

Nice!

[Blue & Gold]

Kato's father voicing his displeasure.

 

[dre22era]

After 6 years = Can't feel bad for you Kato 

What more promises do you want?

BYE 

[Zipped Up]

45 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Per his dad's tweet, Kato's now 4th on the QB depth chart.

 

1. Gibson

2. Irons

3. Jankowski(?)

4. Kato

 

Based on the scrimmages in August and who took backup reps for Miami when Kato and DJ were still hurt, I don’t think Jankowski is 3.

[exit322]

6 minutes ago, dre22era said:

After 6 years = Can't feel bad for you Kato 

What more promises do you want?

BYE 

 

Even if promises were made - and I know there's risk in using "just" stats, but Kato has by some margin the lowest completion percentage, lowest yards per completion, and he's gotten hurt.  I feel bad, because his college career is just about over (unless he has more eligibility he can transfer for).  But, if Akron's trying to win - and given the coach just got canned, they are - he's not the best choice to help do that.

[dre22era]

Coming from a coaching family I am all about commitment from the staff to players but

The kid has had countless opportunities and I have seen regression 

[GP1]

35 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Kato's father voicing his displeasure.

 

Who cares.....

[Zipmeister]

1 hour ago, Blue & Gold said:

Kato's father voicing his displeasure.

 

 

His grammar is bad enough that he could become a regular poster here.

[bigjim]

On 11/3/2021 at 8:57 PM, LZIp said:

That probably should be the case, but that isn't how it works in the real world. If it was, search firms wouldn't be a thing.

That is how successful businesses work.  Did OSU hire a search firm before hiring Day, 'No'.  They had their succession plan in place.  A search firm may confirm the choice and look for more details on the potential condidate.  If Akron needs to use a search firm, then please fire Guthrie.  He will be more incompetent than Ianello.