Toledo- 1/28/22

[Illini Zip]

10 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

We rarely have assists and little off-the-ball movement.  Our offense looks like playground ball.

We lack a true point guard. Castaneda is really a great shooting guard. We might have two point guards named Johnson next year. Everything is negotiable at this point. 

[kreed5120]

We fell apart in 1st half when Freeman got into foul trouble. Have to do better defensively in the 2nd half.

Edited January 29, 2022 by kreed5120

[NWAkron]

2 hours ago, NWAkron said:

I won't be as pessimistic as 1981, but I am realistic.  The MAC is separating into 4 groups:  1.  Toledo and Ohio   2.  Akron, Buffalo, and Kent.  3.  Ball State, Bowling Green, and Miami. 4.  The directional schools.

 

Difference between groups 1 and 2 is consistency.  

 

 

 

 

 Please note that Ohio is trouncing Buffalo at Buffalo.  Zips playing for the 3rd seed.

[zipsrule]

Not a good start to the second half.

[Let'sGoZips94]

13 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

We have 37 points on 45% shooting. Our problem isn't on that end of the floor

 

Rare performance tonight. That'll drop I'm assuming. I also wasn't referencing the shooting, but rather the flow on offense.

 

Who is the leader on this team?

[clarkwgriswold]

These are the games I am happy to not get CBS Sports Network,  This way, I at least don't have to see it.

[clarkwgriswold]

Just now, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Who is the leader on this team?

 

Exactly.  No leader, no standout.  Just a bunch of 6s and 7s on a 10 point scale.  Nice players, no stars.

[1981 grad]

I do not understand Groce.  We always start the 2nd half with a long 3 from Trimble and he misses.  Well here we go again.  A long 3 by Trimble followed by a long 3 by X and we are done for the evening.  I replayed the first foul called on Freeman and it was 12 feet from the basket and Freeman had his hand on the player and it did not effect the play at all.  Ticky tack foul called by a ticky tack ref.

[LZIp]

Well now we know where things stand. Second tier MAC team with Kent and Buffalo (probably more towards the middle than top) while OU and Toledo are above the rest. Doesn't mean we can't go on a run and win the tourney, see OU last year...but its tough to envision.

 

I'm not sure what the obvious fix is next year either. Just gotta hope these guys keep improving.

[clarkwgriswold]

How we see how much pride, heart and fight these kids have in them

[Let'sGoZips94]

3 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

Exactly.  No leader, no standout.  Just a bunch of 6s and 7s on a 10 point scale.  Nice players, no stars.

 

Not bad for a Wednesday night at a college bar. Not great for a basketball team without chemistry to boot.

[NWAkron]

1 minute ago, LZIp said:

Well now we know where things stand. Second tier MAC team with Kent and Buffalo (probably more towards the middle than top) while OU and Toledo are above the rest. Doesn't mean we can't go on a run and win the tourney, see OU last year...but its tough to envision.

 

I'm not sure what the obvious fix is next year either. Just gotta hope these guys keep improving.

The team showed us who they are against EMU, WMU, and CMU.   One close game with a crap team happens.  3 in two weeks?

[kreed5120]

7 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Well now we know where things stand. Second tier MAC team with Kent and Buffalo (probably more towards the middle than top) while OU and Toledo are above the rest. Doesn't mean we can't go on a run and win the tourney, see OU last year...but its tough to envision.

 

I'm not sure what the obvious fix is next year either. Just gotta hope these guys keep improving.

I just don't see this team being able to put together 3 quality wins in a row. When Trimble is on we're capable of beating anyone, but he has more bad games than good.

Edited January 29, 2022 by kreed5120

[1981 grad]

5 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

Exactly.  No leader, no standout.  Just a bunch of 6s and 7s on a 10 point scale.  Nice players, no stars.

I disagree.  In the close games the leader has been x or ali.

[Blue & Gold]

7 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

Exactly.  No leader, no standout.  Just a bunch of 6s and 7s on a 10 point scale.  Nice players, no stars.

And Groce seems to rely on stars on the offensive end. Loosely-goosey, long leashes & let ‘em rip. But we don’t have that player… or two… or three.

[GoZips88]

Toledo = Teamism (and better talent)

[zippy5]

How does Bandaogo botch so many dunks

[clarkwgriswold]

6 minutes ago, 1981 grad said:

I disagree.  In the close games the leader has been x or ali.

They're nice players but they're not even in the top 14 scorers in a pretty average MAC.  

[1981 grad]

Another weak call on Freeman.  Looks like the refs want to keep him out of the game.  I am really proud of the way the team is staying in the game.  They are playing well offensively but need some stops.

[Blue & Gold]

Uh oh. Clarke in. Doesn’t really matter at this point.

[Blue & Gold]

We’re FAR less talented than Toledo. Totally outclassed.

[Blue & Gold]

Toledo’s barely breaking a sweat. Just toying with us.

[NWAkron]

This season is a bust.  The weakest link isn't Trimble missing 3s or a lack of effort.  The weakness is that there is ZERO back up for Freeman, and he's a walk on.  Groce had his lightning in the bottle in 2020 and with LCJ.  Nothing against the players.  They are flailing.  How in the hell was the line -7.5?

[Blue & Gold]

Trimble

[zipsrule]

Down to 11.