1981 grad Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 Last night on the post game Joe Dunn ask Groce about going to a post season tournament and Groce indicated it was up to the administration. I think if the players want to do the CBI, I hope Akron would accept an invitation. Florida in March would not be detrimental to the team. Last year OU played and the year before that Bowling Green played in this tournament. I think it would give our younger players, Johnson and Johnson to get more experience and a nice sendoff to our 2 seniors. Any thoughts on the CBI? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 This is a good group of guys and I'd enjoy the chance to watch them play again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 I think you already answered it. Do the players want it? Some guys enjoy each other and competing so much that they don’t want it to ever end. Sometimes missing out on a trip to the dance is too big of a disappointment and they lose heart. The experience would definitely help the young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) As I mentioned in another thread, now that it is a single venue tournament I wonder why the CBI doesn’t make their event a multiple game guarantee event much like the Zips played in the Caymans this season. With 16 teams it would just be one more round but giving teams a certainty of multiple games may make the entrance fee seem more worth the cost and it could do wonders for young player development Edited March 11, 2023 by GJGood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 I'm for whatever Groce and company think is best for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 If the Zips firmly believe they deserve the NIT and don't make it, they should not play. If they don't make the NIT and understand they reasons why they didn't make it,and are ok with playing some more games, go for it. Just do the fans a solid and give it 100%. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, GP1 said: If the Zips firmly believe they deserve the NIT and don't make it, they should not play. If they don't make the NIT and understand they reasons why they didn't make it,and are ok with playing some more games, go for it. Just do the fans a solid and give it 100%. When MAC schools get selected by the NIT committee it usually means they deserved to be in the NCAA and NIT-worthy MAC teams have to play in a lower tournament or end their season. Case in point, when is the last time a MAC school had a home NIT game against a “bigger” opponent?... certainly there had to be a top MAC squad better than a middle of the pack “major” conference squad according to the metrics at some point in the last 10-12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, GJGood said: When MAC schools get selected by the NIT committee it usually means they deserved to be in the NCAA and NIT-worthy MAC teams have to play in a lower tournament or end their season. Case in point, when is the last time a MAC school had a home NIT game against a “bigger” opponent?... certainly there had to be a top MAC squad better than a middle of the pack “major” conference squad according to the metrics at some point in the last 10-12 years. Toledo against Dayton last year. And this was only because Dayton's arena was being used for the "play in" round of the Dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Toledo against Dayton last year. And this was only because Dayton's arena was being used for the "play in" round of the Dance. OK, I should have asked it as “seeded to be at home in the first round”. Toledo is now a three time defending regular season MAC champ that won 17 straight games until a conference final loss... and I guarantee you they don’t even get a home game in the first round of the NIT.... my guess is that they end up on the road against Cincinnati.... and they deserve to be a 3 seed at worst in the NIT. Edited March 12, 2023 by GJGood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 What is the MAC'S history on NIT bids? Don't we nearly always get 2 teams (or more) in? I'm ready to go play Cincinnati or another #1/2 seed. Add to our resume'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip JD Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Z.I.P. said: What is the MAC'S history on NIT bids? Don't we nearly always get 2 teams (or more) in? I'm ready to go play Cincinnati or another #1/2 seed. Add to our resume'. Over the past 15 years or so, it is very rare for the MAC to get more than 1 team in the NIT. Two seasons ago (approximately) both Toledo and Buff got in, but I believe that was the first time since 2008. The year before no MAC school got in as the regular season and conference champ was the same team. They actually passed a rule that the regular season conference winners get an automatic bid to the NIT if they do not go to the NCAA Tournament (which in the MAC means you lost the MAC tourney). The rule was passed largely due to the 26-7 Akron team with Romeo, Dru, Wood, Dials, etc. being left out of both tourneys. The MAC carries no clout or prestige with selection committees, and the tourneys would rather have the 9th or 10th place teams from power conferenced than mid-majors. If you check the recent history, the CBI and CIT (I believe they changed the name) are the only places you will ever see multiple MAC bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 Zips vs Duquesne 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 I really wish they would just expand the NIT to 64 teams, like how the women's is set up, then eliminate these third rate tournaments. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Now that the NIT has selected their field I expect we should hear if Akron decides to do a post season tourney. Edited March 13, 2023 by 1981 grad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip JD Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 No CBI for the Zips. Major disappointment from my perspective. The bracket is up at The CBI (@CBITourney). CSU and KD are in, not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 And I don’t believe that “The Basketball Classic” is being played this year. I guess we’re done? That blows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 CBI field is full of teams that would've given our younger players worthwhile experience. Would be interesting to hear the reasoning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip JD Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 It looks like the CIT got postponed twice for COVID and then came back last year as the The Basketball Classic. The web page just lists 2022 details and nothing about 2023 so it looks like we saw X's last game which sucks. I will be interested in what the AD has to say about the decision-making process for post season play. I really wanted one more run with this crew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 In the past, I would have been fine being done. But I really enjoyed this team all year, as frustrating as it was to watch early on. But we’ve only had the chance to play in the postseason once under Groce, and this team is plenty deserving. I have no idea what goes into this, but I’m pretty bummed tonight. We’ve had far worse teams continue playing in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, LoyalZIP said: And I don’t believe that “The Basketball Classic” is being played this year. I guess we’re done? That blows I actually preferred that one to the CBI last year. Something about games being on campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Zip JD said: It looks like the CIT got postponed twice for COVID and then came back last year as the The Basketball Classic. The web page just lists 2022 details and nothing about 2023 so it looks like we saw X's last game which sucks. I will be interested in what the AD has to say about the decision-making process for post season play. I really wanted one more run with this crew. When and how do we hear from Guthrie or Groce about this? I would love to hear the reasoning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIPS96 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 There is 27,500 reasons why they aren’t playing in the CBI. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Zips could have really made a run against this field. Nothing against Indiana State but when that is your #1 seed a 22 win Akron team would at least be competitive. Interesting to see that our former coach is playing on in the CBI as well as I remember him saying he didn’t think the Zips should play in one or two of these while he was here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 If the players did not want to play. I am fine with it. I am sure that is what we will hear but I wonder if it is because the school did not want to pay the entry fee and the travel. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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