2024 NCAA Tournament

[mes102]

11 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

I mean he's also never been higher than an 14 seed either.

What are you talking about? He was a 12 seed before with Akron in the NCAA Tournament. 

[ZipCat]

31 minutes ago, mes102 said:

What are you talking about? He was a 12 seed before with Akron in the NCAA Tournament. 

 

It felt like we were always a 14/13 seed. W/E. Still doesn't answer how a Mid-Major like Akron gets a lower seed than Duquesne 

[Valpo Zip]

10 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

It felt like we were always a 14/13 seed. W/E. Still doesn't answer how a Mid-Major like Akron gets a lower seed than Duquesne 

We had opportunities to earn a higher seed but we lost to St. Bonny, UNLV, Drake, and James Madison.

If we want respect, we have to prove that we can beat teams other than EMU and BG.

Edited March 21, 2024 by Valpo Zip

[akzipper]

15 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

It felt like we were always a 14/13 seed. W/E. Still doesn't answer how a Mid-Major like Akron gets a lower seed than Duquesne 

 

Neither team deserved to be higher than a 13 seed. The Zips did nothing all season to earn it and neither did Duquesne. Yet somehow they got rewarded by playing a mediocre BYU team while the Zips are get blown out by Creighton.   

 

And yes, I'm being petty. But I find no joy in seeing the coach who bailed his alma mater after never winning a tournament game, win one at another school. His Akron teams consistently underachieved and yet now we're supposed to cheer as we see our Zips get blown out yet again? No thanks. 

 

 

[ewbrooman1]

7 minutes ago, akzipper said:

 

Neither team deserved to be higher than a 13 seed. The Zips did nothing all season to earn it and neither did Duquesne. Yet somehow they got rewarded by playing a mediocre BYU team while the Zips are get blown out by Creighton.   

 

And yes, I'm being petty. But I find no joy in seeing the coach who bailed his alma mater after never winning a tournament game, win one at another school. His Akron teams consistently underachieved and yet now we're supposed to cheer as we see our Zips get blown out yet again? No thanks. 

 

 

Good grief.

[ZipCat]

25 minutes ago, akzipper said:

 

And yes, I'm being petty. But I find no joy in seeing the coach who bailed his alma mater after never winning a tournament game, win one at another school. His Akron teams consistently underachieved and yet now we're supposed to cheer as we see our Zips get blown out yet again? No thanks. 

 

Uh, what? I'm happy for Keith. 

[mes102]

29 minutes ago, akzipper said:

 

Neither team deserved to be higher than a 13 seed.

 

 

The part I agree with you about. I believe the committee had the VCU-Duquesne winner at the 11 seed regardless. That game was on Selection Sunday, and only the winner was getting in. The reputation of the A-10 far outweighs the MAC over the last decade, and so that's why you see Duquesne getting the 11 seed. 

 

I mean that's why Dambrot said as a speaker to a campus class over a decade ago that if he was coaching at a school like Duke, he would be in the NCAA Tournament every year and Coach K wouldn't have done anything at Akron. 

 

Conference reputations matter. Look at the Mountain West. With the PAC 12 dissolving, they're branding themselves the "Big East of the West Coast" now. 

Edited March 21, 2024 by mes102

[kreed5120]

1 hour ago, mes102 said:

 

The part I agree with you about. I believe the committee had the VCU-Duquesne winner at the 11 seed regardless. That game was on Selection Sunday, and only the winner was getting in. The reputation of the A-10 far outweighs the MAC over the last decade, and so that's why you see Duquesne getting the 11 seed. 

 

I mean that's why Dambrot said as a speaker to a campus class over a decade ago that if he was coaching at a school like Duke, he would be in the NCAA Tournament every year and Coach K wouldn't have done anything at Akron. 

 

Conference reputations matter. Look at the Mountain West. With the PAC 12 dissolving, they're branding themselves the "Big East of the West Coast" now. 

What benefited Duquesne was there were a lot of upsets in the conference tournaments therefore the 11 & 12 seed line was weaker than it normally is. Like for example, Indiana State would have easily been seeded ahead of them had they won the MVC, but they didn't. In a normal year they would have been a low end 12/upper end 13 seed.

[AkronAlumnus]

Looks like another Ohio team is about to go down 😕

[AkronAlumnus]

If UD can turn this around despite the scoring droughts, that would truly be incredible. 

[AkronAlumnus]

17-0 run UD!

[AkronAlumnus]

Wow!! Might be one of the bigger combacks I've ever witnessed

[Zippy87]

4 hours ago, akzipper said:

 

Neither team deserved to be higher than a 13 seed. The Zips did nothing all season to earn it and neither did Duquesne. Yet somehow they got rewarded by playing a mediocre BYU team while the Zips are get blown out by Creighton.   

 

And yes, I'm being petty. But I find no joy in seeing the coach who bailed his alma mater after never winning a tournament game, win one at another school. His Akron teams consistently underachieved and yet now we're supposed to cheer as we see our Zips get blown out yet again? No thanks. 

 

 

 

"Consistently underachieved" is WILD 

[Let'sGoZips94]

Outside of this Gohlke kid for Oakland, Akron caught the hottest shooting team all day so far. That's a bummer. 

[Reslife4Life]

Let’s go fellow Cayman Island participants Oakland! 

[Zippy87]

The two teams that pulled off the biggest upsets today had scoring guards lead the way - Oakland (Gohlke, 32) and Duquesne (Grant, 19). When we came close against UCLA. Castaneda led the way with 18. When OU won in 2021, they had Preston and Sears. When Groce's OU teams made their runs, they had DJ Cooper.

 

You get the point. It's hard to pull off an upset without a guard who can score in bunches and break down a defense. 

 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

14 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

The two teams that pulled off the biggest upsets today had scoring guards lead the way - Oakland (Gohlke, 32) and Duquesne (Grant, 19). When we came close against UCLA. Castaneda led the way with 18. When OU won in 2021, they had Preston and Sears. When Groce's OU teams made their runs, they had DJ Cooper.

 

You get the point. It's hard to pull off an upset without a guard who can score in bunches and break down a defense. 

 

 

 

This. Please be "him", Sharron Young. 

[LZIp]

18 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

The two teams that pulled off the biggest upsets today had scoring guards lead the way - Oakland (Gohlke, 32) and Duquesne (Grant, 19). When we came close against UCLA. Castaneda led the way with 18. When OU won in 2021, they had Preston and Sears. When Groce's OU teams made their runs, they had DJ Cooper.

 

You get the point. It's hard to pull off an upset without a guard who can score in bunches and break down a defense. 

 

 

Thats what made COVID hurt so bad. That was our best chance yet with LCJ (and all the other quality contributors in that team). But agree, killer guards are the way to make noise in the tourney.

Edited March 22, 2024 by LZIp

[GoZips88]

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Edited March 22, 2024 by GoZips88

[LZIp]

Early, but JMU is playing physical as hell against Wisconsin. Straight bullying them 

[Let'sGoZips94]

42 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Early, but JMU is playing physical as hell against Wisconsin. Straight bullying them 

 

Nearly halftime and they are having their way. Our loss to them was completely respectable. Assuming the MAC/SBC challenge continues and they do the first matchup the same way, we'll play either them or App State next season. 

Edited March 23, 2024 by Let'sGoZips94

[ZippyRulz]

I know what you're saying but I hate that their football and basketball programs are ahead of us right now. I also hate that I can't watch this game on CBS Paramount+ without upgrading to the premier plan grrr.

 

 

 

[ZippyRulz]

As well as Creighton shot in scoring 77 on us, there are a lot of other teams scoring in the 90s and even 100s.

 

[Blue & Gold]

Though nothing we really haven't discussed already, I like this guy's thinking.  Reward every D-1 conference regular season champion and tournament champion a bid to the Big Dance.  Make the regular season meaningful again.

 

Edited March 23, 2024 by Blue & Gold

[Blue & Gold]

Possible drawback to the above scenario?

Idk. P6 conference champions still play to win their respective tournaments, don't they?  These are young men & natural born competitors; they wanna win.  Also, perhaps the NCAA could reward a team which wins both their conference regular season and tournament titles with a considerably higher seeding?  I'd say that should be reward enough to get the regular season champ to play to win the tournament.

 

EDIT: Additionally, say we win the regular season championship & play KSUcks or Ohio for the tournament championship... there's not a single member of this board who wouldn't be thrilled at the prospect of keeping KSUcks or Ohio out of the NCAAT altogether.

Edited March 23, 2024 by Blue & Gold