LZIp Posted Tuesday at 05:24 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:24 PM Marquelle Macintire! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:26 PM (edited) 29 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Eh, our OOC wasn't spectacular. Saint Mary's (23rd), Yale (80th), Ark St (92nd), Milwaukee (107th), and Princeton (130th) are all higher NET than any MAC school we've played (Miami is 155th, Ohio is 162nd, Toledo is 198th), but Omaha (202nd), Lamar (213th), N. Kentucky (254th), Alabama St. (296th), and Jackson St. (313th) are all in the range of the bottom half of the MAC schools we've played. Our defensive numbers weren't great vs. the lesser part of our OOC and outside of Milwaukee, nobody lit it up offensively against us (87 pts by Saint Mary's had more to do with their height advantage on rebounds). If you're waiting for the game vs. South Alabama (128th coming off a loss vs. lowly ULM), I don't know what you're looking for that we're not showing already vs. Miami/Ohio/Toledo. Our two closest losses were to Arkansas State (80-75 in OT) and Princeton (76-75 on a last possession shot). In the Ark St. game, Hardman played 5 minutes (3 pts), Seth played 12 minutes (5 pts), and although Isaiah Gray played 32 minutes he only had 4 pts on 3 2PA and 0 3PA. Those 3 pieces have since found their footing in this system, and if that game were played again, we most likely win that game. In the Princeton game, Seth Wilson played 15 minutes providing 0 pts on 2 shot attempts and Nate Johnson played 36 minutes (way above his recent average minutes per game). If our more recent balanced attack was exhibited in that game, we probably win. What is our optimism and outlook on the season like if we're 16-3 instead of 14-5 because a few pieces clicked a bit better earlier in the season, leading to simply 1 more basket in each game that would've given us victories in both? It's ok to trust your eyes right now. This is a good team with one of the deepest scoring rosters I've seen in quite some time in college basketball, especially at the mid major level. Cautiously optimistic isn't a bad thing as long as you allow yourself to enjoy the ride instead of waiting for the other shoe to drop. Go Zips! We lost to all the good teams we played OOC. That was my point. Several we were run off the court. Ohio is decimated with injuries and done for. Outside of Miami the rest of the MAC is a dumpster fire, including Toledo and Ohio. I don't deal in hypotheticals. We are what are record says we are. Edit: it's not like I'm arbitrarily viewing the games. We're 11-0 in Q4 games. We're 1-5 against Q1, Q2, Q3 opponents. Miami was our first non-cupcake win. I think it's reasonable to want to see more. Edited Tuesday at 05:43 PM by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted Tuesday at 05:43 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:43 PM 17 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: We lost to all the good teams we played OOC. That was my point. Several we were run off the court. Ohio is decimated with injuries and done for. Outside of Miami the rest of the MAC is a dumpster fire, including Toledo and Ohio. I don't deal in hypotheticals. We are what are record says we are. Are you saying the MAC blows? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:47 PM This is an interesting topic: Are we really good because after the OOC schedule we improved a great deal or do we appear to be good because the MAC sucks. My answer: time will tell. Even good teams will lose against bad teams. However, if this team is really good, lets win the rest of the games. A really good Akron team should be able to run out the rest of the schedule. Lets win at Northern Illinois and at Kent and then continue this conversation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:59 PM If Groce can't run the table with this team, when will he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted Tuesday at 08:02 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:02 PM 3 minutes ago, NWAkron said: If Groce can't run the table with this team, when will he? Groce never won the MAC regular season while at OU. His focus is and always will be March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted Tuesday at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:37 PM On a night Okonkwo runs up the silly fouls, Lyles has a substandard game, the threes don't fall and the other team gets hot, this team will lose. I like this team and their chances to win the MAC but history tells me there will be speed bumps along the way, including another injury or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM Just now, clarkwgriswold said: I like this team and their chances to win the MAC but history tells me there will be speed bumps along the way, including another injury or two. I hope thats not the case. I believe we already lost two guys for the season (Mahaffey and Harris). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted Tuesday at 08:49 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:49 PM 1 hour ago, 1981 grad said: This is an interesting topic: Are we really good because after the OOC schedule we improved a great deal or do we appear to be good because the MAC sucks. Probably a little of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM David Kalb (Whose name Joe Dunn always followed with, "The Walk-on from Bucyrus") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Groce never won the MAC regular season while at OU. His focus is and always will be March. I can't say I've seen him lacking focus thus far in the 2025 regular season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:10 PM 1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said: On a night Okonkwo runs up the silly fouls, Lyles has a substandard game, the threes don't fall and the other team gets hot, this team will lose. I like this team and their chances to win the MAC but history tells me there will be speed bumps along the way, including another injury or two. Hopefully that day comes on a cold February evening, not in Cleveland in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted Tuesday at 10:21 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:21 PM 2 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Groce never won the MAC regular season while at OU. His focus is and always will be March. I didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted Tuesday at 11:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:22 PM 1 hour ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I can't say I've seen him lacking focus thus far in the 2025 regular season. I meant the end goal is always success in March. His regular season focus is making sure we're in a position to win in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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