Staying Close to the Vest - Ex Coach Groce-related News and Views

[Zippy87]

2 minutes ago, Zips1991 said:

I think the way Coach D left was actually better than the way Groce left. At least he got a big pay raise and had a connection to the school. Groce's departure makes me feel like he just wanted to leave.

 

I agree 100%. KD only left - after 13 years, almost u heard at the time (or any time) - for a job that was very personal for him. Groce interviewed multiple places and seemed to be determined to leave. Very, very different IMO.

 

(But as I said before, Groce is a good man and I respect his decision to leave). 

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

[dirtyolcrowe]

4 hours ago, feetg10 said:

Not gonna lie, those pictures make me sick

They must have had a student take these.  He didn’t include all the banners for CoC!!!!

oh wait……..

[zippy5]

KD took all our players 

[Blue & Gold]

 

[kreed5120]

15 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

KD took all our players 

 

They were leaving anyway. Look at any coaching change and you see huge roster turnover. The exception is if you promote an assistant like we did with Ford. Even then it's no guarantee.

 

Edit: Didn't he only take 2 if I remember right? Hughes and that undersized pg? Memory is fading at my old age.

 

Edit 2: Tavian Dunn-Martin

Edited 3 hours ago by kreed5120

[Zippy87]

13 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

KD took all our players 

 

Only Tavian Dunn-Martin and Michael Hughes - both freshmen - followed him to Duquesne. 

[clarkwgriswold]

44 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

 

Sigh.  We just broke up and I saw her with her new boyfriend.

[zippy5]

36 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

They were leaving anyway. Look at any coaching change and you see huge roster turnover. The exception is if you promote an assistant like we did with Ford. Even then it's no guarantee.

 

Edit: Didn't he only take 2 if I remember right? Hughes and that undersized pg? Memory is fading at my old age.

 

Edit 2: Tavian Dunn-Martin

I guess we'll see for ourselves very soon if that happens with any coaching change

[Zippy87]

To add more context to the KD exit - Antino Jackson, Noah Robotham, Josh Williams, and Aaron Jackson were the best players with remaining eligibility. Groce had an opportunity to pitch to all 4, and all 4 transferred elsewhere (none to Duquesne). (That's not a knock on Groce, just the reality of the situation.)

 

As @kreed5120 said, turnover is very common with a coaching change. It may not be that way with Ford because it's a unique situation where the players already know him well and vice-versa. We can only hope. 

[kreed5120]

20 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

To add more context to the KD exit - Antino Jackson, Noah Robotham, Josh Williams, and Aaron Jackson were the best players with remaining eligibility. Groce had an opportunity to pitch to all 4, and all 4 transferred elsewhere (none to Duquesne). (That's not a knock on Groce, just the reality of the situation.)

 

As @kreed5120 said, turnover is very common with a coaching change. It may not be that way with Ford because it's a unique situation where the players already know him well and vice-versa. We can only hope. 

 

He didn't take Ivey or Utomi either.

 

Hughes only played in about half the games. Combined TDM and Hughes averaged 5.8/2/1.5. That would be like if Halligan and Oggy enter the portal this offseason and someone posts well damn there goes our entire team. Nobody here would treat those losses as something we couldn't recover from.

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

[Reslife4Life]

12 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Well, the BoT, president, and AD all getting along doesn't seem to happen at UA very often. Good for CoC for figuring that out

[Captain Kangaroo]

Hope the “10 Toes” sales pitch works better for him in Charleston than it did in Akron.

 

10 Toes is a lot more effective if Bubba Wentz (Bud’s Palmetto State cousin) adds 10 G’s to their wallets.

[72 Roo]

4 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said:

Well, the BoT, president, and AD all getting along doesn't seem to happen at UA very often. Good for CoC for figuring that out

In case you haven't noticed it is happening at Akron now. We have exceptional people in all positions and they will work things out. They are doing it now.

[kreed5120]

Interesting to note, Campbell's head coach, who plays in the same conference as CoC, has stepped down to become an assistant coach at Louisville. He is very blunt in his letter saying he's leaving because the University isn't giving him the necessary resources to compete.

 

 

[LZIp]

59 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

He didn't take Ivey or Utomi either.

 

Hughes only played in about half the games. Combined TDM and Hughes averaged 5.8/2/1.5. That would be like if Halligan and Oggy enter the portal this offseason and someone posts well damn there goes our entire team. Nobody here would treat those losses as something we couldn't recover from.

Times were different then. Players couldn’t transfer and be immediately eligible. Much easier to reload immediately in today’s environment. I may be misremembering, but I think KD took some signees too. 
 

[Let'sGoZips94]

45 minutes ago, 72 Roo said:

In case you haven't noticed it is happening at Akron now. We have exceptional people in all positions and they will work things out. They are doing it now.

 

That would go against what some have said.