ZipsBBjunkie Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 Well 12v4 was just a heck of a game between Colo St and Maryland. Wow! Freshman with the game winner! Guess he'll transfer now and rumor is both coaches are moving on to other schools as well. Quote
NWAkron Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 35 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said: Well 12v4 was just a heck of a game between Colo St and Maryland. Wow! Freshman with the game winner! Guess he'll transfer now and rumor is both coaches are moving on to other schools as well. I thought MD coach just received a big raise. Quote
kreed5120 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 17 minutes ago, NWAkron said: I thought MD coach just received a big raise. TBF so did Nate Oats weeks before he high tailed it to Alabama. Quote
Sergeant Zip Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 On 3/21/2025 at 1:53 PM, Reslife4Life said: Man they should sell that hat without the in seattle, that is sweet $30 although it does have the "in Seattle" Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 Article on the end of the Cinderella team- https://sports.yahoo.com/college-basketball/article/march-madness-is-nil-the-death-of-cinderella-150007039.html Quote
Illini Zip Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: Article on the end of the Cinderella team- https://sports.yahoo.com/college-basketball/article/march-madness-is-nil-the-death-of-cinderella-150007039.html Just reading the headline has me fuming. Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 34 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: Just reading the headline has me fuming. I said it a couple of days ago. The days of teams like George Mason, OU, Davidson, VCU, FGCU, etc...are long gone. 1 Quote
Illini Zip Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 38 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: Just reading the headline has me fuming. …and then I saw the photo towards the bottom of the article. 😡 Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 It’s as plain as the nose on your face…Power Conferences take the best and brightest mid-major players…and give us their unwanted table scraps in return. We get the best and brightest of the D2 crop, but that doesn’t nearly offset the NIL/Portal talent loss. If this system were in place 25 years ago, the MAC would never have seen the likes of Bonzi Wells, Brandon Hunter, Gary Trent, Chris Kaman, Earl Boykins, Wally Szerbiak, Antonio Brown and on and on. The Zips have some good fortune in having a great coach and someone to pay a few player’s NIL funds. But that can end tomorrow, and we’ll be fielding teams that have zero chance of ever being more than Round 1 NCAA tournament fodder. I hate it. 2 2 Quote
kreed5120 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 27 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I think we're overreacting a bit here We live in the generation of hot takes. Get out of here with this rationale. I do agree that NIL will lesson mid-majors chances moving forward. Not just because of them taking the best players, but also because it keeps players like Mark Sears in college longer. I still think you will see mid-majors sneak into the Sweet 16, but just not as frequently. Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 31 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: We live in the generation of hot takes. Get out of here with this rationale. I do agree that NIL will lesson mid-majors chances moving forward. Not just because of them taking the best players, but also because it keeps players like Mark Sears in college longer. I still think you will see mid-majors sneak into the Sweet 16, but just not as frequently. But the ones that do get there are likely to be the "Major" mid-majors like Gonzaga and Creighton rather than true Cinderellas. 1 Quote
tpsjugglerdude Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 Within a week St. Francis went from playing in the play-in game to D3. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44402532/saint-francis-first-four-loss-moving-division-iii Quote
ZipsBBjunkie Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 (edited) 32 minutes ago, tpsjugglerdude said: Within a week St. Francis went from playing in the play-in game to D3. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44402532/saint-francis-first-four-loss-moving-division-iii Watch this trend closely! Not the first, won't be the last. Edited March 25 by ZipsBBjunkie Quote
NWAkron Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 36 minutes ago, ZipsBBjunkie said: Watch this trend closely! Not the first, won't be the last. fortunately, we don't have to worry about that for another year. but we can worry about: attendance, home and homes with Villanova, John's next endeavor, keeping up with John and Dustin, facilities, red pandas, and lack of a viable and serviceable big. 3 Quote
kreed5120 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 2 hours ago, tpsjugglerdude said: Within a week St. Francis went from playing in the play-in game to D3. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44402532/saint-francis-first-four-loss-moving-division-iii So what you're saying is Kent State lost to a soon to be D3 school this past football season 🤣 Quote
ZippyRulz Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 6 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said: Article on the end of the Cinderella team- https://sports.yahoo.com/college-basketball/article/march-madness-is-nil-the-death-of-cinderella-150007039.html probably just a matter of time before one of the lesser conference champs declines their spot in the NCAAT to participate in one of the mid-major tourneys. KSU is arguably having more fun in the postseason than what we did. Quote
GP1 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 4 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said: It’s as plain as the nose on your face…Power Conferences take the best and brightest mid-major players…and give us their unwanted table scraps in return. We get the best and brightest of the D2 crop, but that doesn’t nearly offset the NIL/Portal talent loss. If this system were in place 25 years ago, the MAC would never have seen the likes of Bonzi Wells, Brandon Hunter, Gary Trent, Chris Kaman, Earl Boykins, Wally Szerbiak, Antonio Brown and on and on. The Zips have some good fortune in having a great coach and someone to pay a few player’s NIL funds. But that can end tomorrow, and we’ll be fielding teams that have zero chance of ever being more than Round 1 NCAA tournament fodder. I hate it. In addition, soon we will be at a point where the best of the best of the best end up annually at 5-6 schools. Those schools will win the championship every year. Same in football. There is nothing interesting about it. I can't even dislike a lot of teams I used to because I don't care enough to dislike them. I find myself increasingly uninterested in college athletics and it's more than the NIL. I enjoy going to Wake Forest games, even though that's getting increasingly difficult, and watching the Zips from afar. Other than that, I really don't care much for it and I used to love college athletics. Maybe it's because it's now minor league sports and I don't like minor league sports. 2 Quote
kreed5120 Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 11 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: probably just a matter of time before one of the lesser conference champs declines their spot in the NCAAT to participate in one of the mid-major tourneys. KSU is arguably having more fun in the postseason than what we did. You're not allowed to. Marquette declined an at-large bid to the 1970 tournament to play in the NIT instead, which the won. In 1971 the NCAA instituted a rule that if you're selected to the tournament, you must participate or have no postseason. Quote
Hilltopper Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, GP1 said: In addition, soon we will be at a point where the best of the best of the best end up annually at 5-6 schools. Those schools will win the championship every year. Same in football. There is nothing interesting about it. I can't even dislike a lot of teams I used to because I don't care enough to dislike them. I find myself increasingly uninterested in college athletics and it's more than the NIL. I enjoy going to Wake Forest games, even though that's getting increasingly difficult, and watching the Zips from afar. Other than that, I really don't care much for it and I used to love college athletics. Maybe it's because it's now minor league sports and I don't like minor league sports. I pay virtually no attention to any other games other than the Zips. 3 1 Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 The football powerhouses are already mumbling about breaking off on their own. I wouldn't be surprised if they did and basketball then followed suit. Quote
ZippyRulz Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 38 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: You're not allowed to. Marquette declined an at-large bid to the 1970 tournament to play in the NIT instead, which the won. In 1971 the NCAA instituted a rule that if you're selected to the tournament, you must participate or have no postseason. I would love to see that lawsuit play out. Quote
GP1 Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Hilltopper said: I pay virtually no attention to any other games other than the Zips. We aren't the target audience anymore. 1 Quote
MDZip Posted March 26 Report Posted March 26 (edited) Just to emphasize it further, here are the starting lineups of all Sweet 16 teams by the players original schools. A ton of mid major players (I count 27 out of 80). Look at Alabama on bottom four from the left. Some of these I can't even tell who the school is. Edited March 26 by MDZip 2 Quote
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