Hilltopper Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Unless I am mistaken next year is the final year on Bowdens contract. Did he do enough this season to merit an extension? If he doesn't what impact will it have on recruiting? Based on what I am seeing tonight, we still have a long way to go to be a consistent winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 I would be stunned if Bowden didn't get an extension. He brought a not great team to our second ever MAC championship appearence. I want to see a lot of change from the Zips in the offseason, but I doubt a change in head coach will be one of them. It would also be a huge mistake to let him coach a lame duck season. That is a good way to ruin recruiting for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Maybe Williams can use some leverage to get Bowden to make some changes to the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roopride Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 We need a new OC!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 A macec and 2 bowl games in the last 3 years gets you an extension at Akron. There should only be a modest COL raise, if any, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, UAZippers said: I would be stunned if Bowden didn't get an extension. He brought a not great team to our second ever MAC championship appearence. I want to see a lot of change from the Zips in the offseason, but I doubt a change in head coach will be one of them. It would also be a huge mistake to let him coach a lame duck season. That is a good way to ruin recruiting for years to come. Senderoff owes Dambrot a thank you for potentially saving his job after Akron laid an egg in last year's MAC Championship Game. Bowden owes Solich a thank you if he's brought back/extended. No way would I extend Bowden based on this year, and I'd consider relieving him of his duties, especially if he refuses to make any changes to his coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 Heck yeah he gets an extension. Tonight was ugly but he's taken us to 2 bowls in three years. Inherited a total crap show and has us on the right track recruiting wise now. No way I'd let him coach and try and recruit on a one year deal.. at least a 2 year extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 God, I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted December 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 If there is no announcement tonight does it impact us tomorrow on early signing day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hilltopper said: Maybe Williams can use some leverage to get Bowden to make some changes to the coaching staff. At the end of the day, this staff got us to Detroit and Boca so I don't think Williams will dictate any changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, lilroodude said: Senderoff owes Dambrot a thank you for potentially saving his job after Akron laid an egg in last year's MAC Championship Game. Bowden owes Solich a thank you if he's brought back/extended. No way would I extend Bowden based on this year, and I'd consider relieving him of his duties, especially if he refuses to make any changes to his coaching staff. You can say that, but I think the Zips were a not good football team this year who way over performed in games when they absolutely needed to. Is it his fault that the team is not great talent-wise? Yes. Is it due in large part to his coaching that they overcame the talent difference so often? Yes. What i hope to see (but doubt will happen) is an extension with a clause that increases salaries for his assistants fairly substantially with the condition that he removes some of the coaches currently in place. Particularly Milwee and Jeff Bowden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hilltopper said: If there is no announcement tonight does it impact us tomorrow on early signing day? Eh doubt it, players that are skeptical probably weren't signing tomorrow anyway. I am a little surprised an extension wasn't worked out before this game so perhaps there is the possibility of no extension, but I would disagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, ZippyRulz said: At the end of the day, this staff got us to Detroit and Boca so I don't think Williams will dictate any changes. Wait what? Did I miss something? I didn't realize we showed up for our games in Detroit & Boca. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 There is no way he is on his way out. It's put luck versus a program that accom0lished more than any other Zips team in 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 You extend the contract of the MAC East winning head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, roopride said: We need a new OC!!! Could someone help me please on this? How is it not Bowdens fault that he has this god awful OC you all keep talking about. I mean it's not like the OC is coaching in a different stadium. This poor play calling is on Bowden. Edited December 20, 2017 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: You extend the contract of the MAC East winning head coach. The MAC West winning coach got an extension. If I recall correctly, Candle is getting 1.2 million per year for six years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvillezip Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 The offense is pathetic. I am not one to call for coaching changes but I am done with Milwee. and can we get a dadgum kicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontrealExposloveZippy Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 We had some very untimely injuries this year, but we were still able to make it to the MAC Championship. Gotta keep Bowden for stability of the program. In the words of Meat Loaf 2 (bowls) out of 3 (years) ain't bad. Especially for Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cykron Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Hilltopper said: If there is no announcement tonight does it impact us tomorrow on early signing day? I don't know if the absence of an extension hurts, but the presence of an extension certainly helps. I'm surprised that an announcement hasn't already been made. FYI, Matt Campbell got an extension right after the regular season and we are expected 17 of 18 commits to sign tomorrow for Iowa State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 The basketball to football similarities (and disparities) are stunning! The similarities are that Dambrot and Bowden both seem to have figured out a way to win enough in the MAC but not enough at the national stage. Another similarity is that majority of the fans have/had issues with assistant coaches - not so much the head coaches themselves. The difference is that most fans supported Dambrot because he is better than Hipsher. We seem to be forgetting that Bowden is (a tiny teeny bit) better than Ianello Dambrot was the coach for what? 12 years? And while a lot of people (including me) talked about his program stagnating, I do not remember seeing anyone calling for his job. This is only Bowden's 5th year. The seniors we have on the team this year are players that Bowden had to recruit to a 1-11 team!!! Can you imagine the type of recruits who will talk to you when your team is 1-11, not only that year, also the year before... and the year before. How can we forget so fast? I am not happy with the last two blowout losses. They stink... but this program has not yet stagnated. It is still growing and it will be a shame to blow it up and start over. Bowden started his era with teams of mostly transfers and JUCO kids. They got us out of the basement of the D1 world. He started recruiting freshmen. Then we won a bowl game. Now better recruits are willing to talk to him. But not too many true freshmen contribute to a football team. You have to be patient. If I was the AD, I will extend Bowden's contract for another 2-3 years. There will be no big raises and Milwee's performance must be discussed... Only if I was the AD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 I'm confused. Did we win the MAC East and extend our season by two games? It seems some here would rather not extend the season two-games then to extend the season and lose them. He should get a 3-year extension. But now that we've "arrived" anything less then a .500 season is unacceptable, and a three-year extension (4-years) should include 2-3 more bowl appearances). Anything less is unacceptable. Losing to Kent is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akron1 Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 https://projects.newsday.com/college-football-coaches-salaries-contracts/terry-bowden/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Is that true that we waited until August of the following year to extend his contract after that Bowl Win in 2015? That's what the link above says. I just don't remember those details, but that seems strange to wait that long. I only have one question. Where's those few posters who spent most of the entire last year telling us that Bowden was 100% gone at the end of the year? Lets face it. He's a bargain for what he has produced, and canning him now would not be good timing for this program. But it's obvious that he does not believe that the actions of his OC are to blame for under-performance on that side of the ball. And I don't know if he's going to get pressured to do something about that. Edited December 20, 2017 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 I think Bowden and the administration need to let last night sink in before making any major decisions. Let some calmer and more rational heads settle in. As much as I am not a huge fan, I think you bring him back with conditions, primarily revisions of his coaching staff. The play calling and special teams hampered the team all year and he defense had huge lapses. There could be a hitch in that however, as Bowden seems very loyal to his crew. On the other hand, he's not due much if any of a raise based upon his sub .500 overall and MAC records, and the Miami, Toledo and FAU losses do little to bolster his bargaining position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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