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3 hours ago, ClevelandZip said:

UTEP is joining the Mountain West and Gonzaga is joining the PAC today. These two moves probably don’t impact the MAC on their own but it will be interesting to see how many more dominos fall. If C-USA once again looks like a sinking ship I’m wondering if we revisit grabbing WKU or even consider Delaware since that’s not too far from UMASS.

I don't think I can muster enough interest about this story or watching the rest of the dominoes fall. I'm so bored with all of the conference realignment. It's because something for conference commissioners and struggling athletic directors to do. 

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23 minutes ago, ClevelandZip said:

Oh I hadn’t seen that one as being a done deal yet but that would be interesting. Maybe the SBC would be looking to poach a C-USA team or two to fill the gap.

 

Let's just merge with them and create a super-conference. Is 26 teams too much? 😂

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1 hour ago, ClevelandZip said:


Oh I hadn’t seen that one as being a done deal yet but that would be interesting. Maybe the SBC would be looking to poach a C-USA team or two to fill the gap.

 

I may be mistaken on it being a done deal. Might've been "close". 

 

CUSA won't exist for much longer. Their media contract should be divided into the Sun Belt and MAC. 

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Is a Super League Coming for College Football?  Jimmy Haslam helped conceptualize the CSFL.

The College Student Football League would be split into two tiers, with different divisions based on geography. The top 72 programs would be split into 12 six-team divisions, with the remaining 64 spread across eight divisions in a lower tier. Teams in the top tier would play 13 games, with the best performers in one season receiving the toughest opponents the next. 
 

The CSFL would implement a salary cap and floor for teams as well as pay scales for athletes’ endorsement earnings based on their position and on-field usage. It would also implement stricter guidelines for transfers, limiting athletes to two transfers within a five-year eligibility window. Athletes would collectively bargain with the league through a players’ association, the format of which would depend on whether athletes are reclassified as employees, a question that is currently at issue in federal court and before the National Labor Relations Board. 

 

Revenue generated by the CSFL wouldn’t be split evenly among members; 94% would go to the 72 teams in the top tier, with the programs that drive the most viewers and win the most games receiving larger shares. The remaining 6% would go to the 64 teams in the lower tier.

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10 hours ago, Sergeant Zip said:

Is a Super League Coming for College Football?  Jimmy Haslam helped conceptualize the CSFL.

The College Student Football League would be split into two tiers, with different divisions based on geography. The top 72 programs would be split into 12 six-team divisions, with the remaining 64 spread across eight divisions in a lower tier. Teams in the top tier would play 13 games, with the best performers in one season receiving the toughest opponents the next. 
 

The CSFL would implement a salary cap and floor for teams as well as pay scales for athletes’ endorsement earnings based on their position and on-field usage. It would also implement stricter guidelines for transfers, limiting athletes to two transfers within a five-year eligibility window. Athletes would collectively bargain with the league through a players’ association, the format of which would depend on whether athletes are reclassified as employees, a question that is currently at issue in federal court and before the National Labor Relations Board. 

 

Revenue generated by the CSFL wouldn’t be split evenly among members; 94% would go to the 72 teams in the top tier, with the programs that drive the most viewers and win the most games receiving larger shares. The remaining 6% would go to the 64 teams in the lower tier.

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Without seeing projected revenue and salary cap/floor numbers, it's hard to say this idea solves anything. Not sure how many schools outside of the top 16 or so can actually afford much of a salary "floor". 

 

Jimmy Haslam needs to worry about his NFL franchise's failing football coach & GM. Let someone else solve the the CFB problem in the meantime. 

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I've always thought the easiest solution would be to create a football pyramid, similar to European soccer. 

 

3 tiers of teams with the possibility of promotion/relegation.

 

Each team is ranked based on the previous season and they have the chance to move up/down halfway though the season. Teams play 12 games. First 6 include 4 evenly ranked teams and 2 games against teams in the tier above or below them. Then the next 6 are against teams in the same tier. 

 

This would prevent teams like Ohio State from scheduling nothing but cupcakes for the first 4 weeks, make sure we get great matchups all season long and give fans a lot more variety. I'd love to see Akron play more teams in football outside of the same old directional MAC schools.

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Evidently Texas State has declined to join the Mountain West, so the MW is bringing up Montana, Montana State, Idaho, and North Dakota State from FCS. So, I guess C-USA is probably safe from getting picked apart for now and I would assume this means Toledo and NIU turned the MW down for that weird football-only proposal.

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2 hours ago, akzipper said:

I've always thought the easiest solution would be to create a football pyramid, similar to European soccer. 

 

3 tiers of teams with the possibility of promotion/relegation.

 

Each team is ranked based on the previous season and they have the chance to move up/down halfway though the season. Teams play 12 games. First 6 include 4 evenly ranked teams and 2 games against teams in the tier above or below them. Then the next 6 are against teams in the same tier. 

 

This would prevent teams like Ohio State from scheduling nothing but cupcakes for the first 4 weeks, make sure we get great matchups all season long and give fans a lot more variety. I'd love to see Akron play more teams in football outside of the same old directional MAC schools.

It’d be fun to see, but the big boys (SEC & BIG) would never go for that. A divide is certainly coming, but it won’t involve promotion and relegation in that fashion. All the G5 hustling is minor compared to whatever the “haves” eventually decide.

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2 hours ago, ClevelandZip said:

Evidently Texas State has declined to join the Mountain West, so the MW is bringing up Montana, Montana State, Idaho, and North Dakota State from FCS. So, I guess C-USA is probably safe from getting picked apart for now and I would assume this means Toledo and NIU turned the MW down for that weird football-only proposal.

 

That is going to be a fun conference.

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9 hours ago, akzipper said:

I've always thought the easiest solution would be to create a football pyramid, similar to European soccer. 

 

3 tiers of teams with the possibility of promotion/relegation.

 

Each team is ranked based on the previous season and they have the chance to move up/down halfway though the season. Teams play 12 games. First 6 include 4 evenly ranked teams and 2 games against teams in the tier above or below them. Then the next 6 are against teams in the same tier. 

 

This would prevent teams like Ohio State from scheduling nothing but cupcakes for the first 4 weeks, make sure we get great matchups all season long and give fans a lot more variety. I'd love to see Akron play more teams in football outside of the same old directional MAC schools.

This will never happen because : 1) It makes too much sense, and 2) no schools in the P4, especially Big Ten and SEC, will give up the huge money they enjoy, both now and in the future. Bring on a G5 championship and forget about them.

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4 hours ago, 72 Roo said:

 Bring on a G5 championship and forget about them.

I've been saying this for years. The disparity between the P4 and G5 isn't just a few dollars a year. It's tens of millions of dollars that is almost impossible to balance out. There is good football being played at the G5 level. Enjoy it. 

 

There are just under 2,000 public universities in the United States. Most are doing poorly financially. The last thing the country needs is for some of them to waste time and money chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. This isn't professional European soccer where the reason for existence is money. Relegation is not a solution to any of the problems G5 schools have. In fact, the pursuit of the pot of gold would be further detrimental to those schools. 

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5 hours ago, GP1 said:

I've been saying this for years. The disparity between the P4 and G5 isn't just a few dollars a year. It's tens of millions of dollars that is almost impossible to balance out. There is good football being played at the G5 level. Enjoy it. 

 

There are just under 2,000 public universities in the United States. Most are doing poorly financially. The last thing the country needs is for some of them to waste time and money chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. This isn't professional European soccer where the reason for existence is money. Relegation is not a solution to any of the problems G5 schools have. In fact, the pursuit of the pot of gold would be further detrimental to those schools. 

Exacty.  Others can down vote to thier heart's content, but it's our American anti-culture, mostly created and supported by people who have never set foot on a college campus let alone earned a degree, who have put college athletics on the path it is now - the have-everythings and the have-nothings - in an arms race to get to professional status. It's why I interact with students every day in my school who hardly (if at all) associate Ohio State Athletics with Ohio State University (I live in central Ohio). High school, college and university education is an afterthought in all this mess (it probabaly always was for a large percentage of college "scholar athletes").  We all let the media create a monster that is impovershing most D1 universities in this insane pursuit.    

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17 hours ago, 72 Roo said:

This will never happen because : 1) It makes too much sense, and 2) no schools in the P4, especially Big Ten and SEC, will give up the huge money they enjoy, both now and in the future. Bring on a G5 championship and forget about them.

 

Yeah I totally agree. The conferences make too much money and won't throw it all away. Competitiveness in college football has never been their goal. It's always about money.

 

On top of that, the elite schools would want no part in strengthening their schedules. They enjoy playing 2-3 meaningful games all year because it gives them a better shot at the CFP. If they wanted tougher schedules they would play better teams to start the season. 

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10 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

Interesting. This was just posted on X by UA Athletics

 

They have been a radio sponsor for as long as I can remember.   That song gets stuck in my head. 

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On 9/17/2024 at 2:28 PM, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Our old friend is asking for $100 monthly from 10k fans. The P4s are gonna eat themselves.

 

 

I'm absolutely dumbfounded that someone can be so clueless as to think that it's okay to ask for $1200 IN DONATIONS (you don't even get anything for that) just to advance their own career.

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I feel the approach isn't that great and a bit tone deaf. I don't have any hard numbers, but I imagine for schools like Alabama or Ohio State, that somewhere around 80% of their NIL comes from the top 10% of donors.

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9 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

I feel the approach isn't that great and a bit tone deaf. I don't have any hard numbers, but I imagine for schools like Alabama or Ohio State, that somewhere around 80% of their NIL comes from the top 10% of donors.

 

The numbers in your imagination seem vaguely familiar.

check out............................

On3's top 15 NIL collectives in college sports - On3

 

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