clarkwgriswold Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Travis Steele brings his 14-4/5-0 Miami Redhawks into the JAR Saturday at 2:00 for a battle of the MAC’s last undefeated teams. 6’6” sophomore wing, Xavier transfer, Kam Craft leads the Redhawks in scoring at 15.2 ppg. 6’5” junior guard, Peter Suder, a Bellarmine transfer, is second on the team in scoring at 14.1 ppg. Rutgers transfer Antone Woolfolk, a 6’9” forward, leads rebounding at 5.9 rpg while contributing 8.4 ppg. The game is part of a doubleheader with the women who play Buffalo at 4:30. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted January 22 Author Report Share Posted January 22 Some interesting stats: * The Zips top scorer, Nate, is 18th in the MAC in scoring. He's the only Zip in the top 25. * 8 different Zips have led the team in scoring for a game. * Despite not having a top scorer, the Zips lead the MAC in points per game. * The Zips are fourth in points allowed on defense. * The Zips are second in point differential (Miami is first). * Okonkwo is first in the MAC in rpg. * Tavari is 4th in assists and assists to turnover ration. * Amani is 3rd in blocks and 21st in rpg. * Young is 5th in 3 point FG%. * Nate is 5th in steals. All in all, this adds up to a deep team with a large number of guys who can score and that despite the faster pace is playing reasonable defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsFan31 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 with not having to go to Oxford. I feel like this is a Must Win that will position us to take control of the conference Race. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I will be watching while waiting in lines at Disney World 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said: Some interesting stats: * The Zips top scorer, Nate, is 18th in the MAC in scoring. He's the only Zip in the top 25. * 8 different Zips have led the team in scoring for a game. * Despite not having a top scorer, the Zips lead the MAC in points per game. * The Zips are fourth in points allowed on defense. * The Zips are second in point differential (Miami is first). * Okonkwo is first in the MAC in rpg. * Tavari is 4th in assists and assists to turnover ration. * Amani is 3rd in blocks and 21st in rpg. * Young is 5th in 3 point FG%. * Nate is 5th in steals. All in all, this adds up to a deep team with a large number of guys who can score and that despite the faster pace is playing reasonable defense. This is tracking to be Groce's deepest offensive team during his Akron tenure. It took the entire OOC schedule for guys to figure out how they fit, so the stats are a bit skewed. MMK is our lowest PPG regular contributor, and Seth Wilson is just ahead of him. MMK is giving us more and more, and Seth has been on fire prior to last night. We are 10 deep for full game contributors and 8 deep for true offensive producers. If Harris is able to work his way back, add one to both totals. We are the deepest team in the MAC by far. In fact, our depth is going to be an advantage on Saturday. Miami is about 9 deep, and the bulk of their production comes from their top 3 - Kraft, Suder, Elmer. They are less athletic than Akron is, and while they are a high powered offense, I wouldn't call them a high octane offense. They make their living in the efficiency department. Miami has struggled against tough, athletic teams. If we make our shots, we should win this pretty comfortably. Bringing the whole family to the game. This will be both my daughters' first Zips basketball game, and I'm hoping they aren't disappointed. I do not expect them to be. Groce has these boys locked in. Edited January 22 by Let'sGoZips94 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted January 22 Author Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: This is tracking to be Groce's deepest offensive team during his Akron tenure. It took the entire OOC schedule for guys to figure out how they fit, so the stats are a bit skewed. MMK is our lowest PPG regular contributor, and Seth Wilson is just ahead of him. MMK is giving us more and more, and Seth has been on fire prior to last night. We are 10 deep for full game contributors and 8 deep for true offensive producers. If Harris is able to work his way back, add one to both totals. We are the deepest team in the MAC by far. In fact, our depth is going to be an advantage on Saturday. Miami is about 9 deep, and the bulk of their production comes from their top 3 - Kraft, Suder, Elmer. They are less athletic than Akron is, and while they are a high powered offense, I wouldn't call them a high octane offense. They make their living in the efficiency department. Miami has struggled against tough, athletic teams. If we make our shots, we should win this pretty comfortably. Bringing the whole family to the game. This will be both my daughters' first Zips basketball game, and I'm hoping they aren't disappointed. I do not expect them to be. Groce has these boys locked in. I don't think the scoring stats are skewed. I think they are a sign of the talent being spread out through the roster rather than being top heavy with someone like an LCJ, X or Enrique. That's a good thing as long as it is properly managed and somebody is capable of stepping up in a pinch to get a hoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, clarkwgriswold said: I don't think the scoring stats are skewed. I think they are a sign of the talent being spread out through the roster rather than being top heavy with someone like an LCJ, X or Enrique. That's a good thing as long as it is properly managed and somebody is capable of stepping up in a pinch to get a hoop. Need a viable back up big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 (edited) 25 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: I don't think the scoring stats are skewed. I think they are a sign of the talent being spread out through the roster rather than being top heavy with someone like an LCJ, X or Enrique. That's a good thing as long as it is properly managed and somebody is capable of stepping up in a pinch to get a hoop. By skewed, I meant the numbers should probably be higher across the board. If the system now was operating this way in December, I think we'd see a few pts added to each person's total. I don't think they're far off, I just think top to bottom we're a bit more lethal than the numbers show (mainly lookin at Seth Wilson, as I believe he should be better than a 4.7 ppg). It's also skewed in my head because guys like Seth, Hardman, Lyles, Scott, etc., can go off for double digits at any point. Nate at 13.7 ppg seems low because of his recent ~20 point performances. This is simply a lethal offense that can afford to have a couple guys experience "off nights" because there are so many weapons. Side note: Okonkwo leading the MAC in RPG with under 8 per game is hilarious coming off a year where Freeman was the best rebounder in the country with over 12 RPG. I wonder how many Freeman would have in the offense with the #1 pace of play in the country? So many opportunities. Edited January 22 by Let'sGoZips94 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: By skewed, I meant the numbers should probably be higher across the board. If the system now was operating this way in December, I think we'd see a few pts added to each person's total. I don't think they're far off, I just think top to bottom we're a bit more lethal than the numbers show (mainly lookin at Seth Wilson, as I believe he should be better than a 4.7 ppg). It's also skewed in my head because guys like Seth, Hardman, Lyles, Scott, etc., can go off for double digits at any point. Nate at 13.7 ppg seems low because of his recent ~20 point performances. This is simply a lethal offense that can afford to have a couple guys experience "off nights" because there are so many weapons. Side note: Okonkwo leading the MAC in RPG with under 8 per game is hilarious coming off a year where Freeman was the best rebounder in the country with over 12 RPG. I wonder how many Freeman would have in the offense with the #1 pace of play in the country? So many opportunities. What’s even crazier about Okonkwo leading the MAC in rebounds is that he’s not logging significant minutes. He only played 14 vs Toledo and 6 vs Ohio because Lyles was tearing it up. Last night against Buffalo felt more “normal”, but only played 16 per the stat sheet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 (edited) I will never understand why last year’s team couldn’t hit wide open threes at a decent clip. They are not that bad of shooters. I don’t believe it. Can you imagine trying to defend Freeman with this year’s guard play? Edited January 22 by Illini Zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 I'm still not convinced Miami is a top team yet. They have not played anyone in conference who is above .500. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 28 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: I will never understand why last year’s team couldn’t hit wide open threes at a decent clip. They are not that bad of shooters. I don’t believe it. Can you imagine trying to defend Freeman with this year’s guard play? Don’t make me gnash my teeth over what might have been. It reminds me of when KD could have had CJ McCollum in the same recruiting class as Zeke Marshall but didn’t have an available scholarship to offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: Don’t make me gnash my teeth over what might have been. It reminds me of when KD could have had CJ McCollum in the same recruiting class as Zeke Marshall but didn’t have an available scholarship to offer. 💯💯💯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, MDZip said: I'm still not convinced Miami is a top team yet. They have not played anyone in conference who is above .500. Well they're one of the only 4 teams over 500 lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 16 hours ago, Illini Zip said: I will never understand why last year’s team couldn’t hit wide open threes at a decent clip. They are not that bad of shooters. I don’t believe it. Can you imagine trying to defend Freeman with this year’s guard play? 2023/24 Shammah Scott: 30.0 3pt% 2024/25 Scott: 37.1 3pt% 2023/24 Mikal Dawson: 28.8 3pt% (lowest of his career) 2024/25 Dawson: 36.3 3pt% 2022/23 Kaleb Thornton: 36.6% 2023/24 Thornton: 32.3% "Sometimes you get good looks and they just don't fall, gotta keep shooting" - John Groce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 23 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: What is helping Tevari this year is this teams spacing and 3 point shooting. The paint is always open and allows him to drive to the basket without being double teamed by another big. If a big clogs the paint then he passes to an open 3 point shooter. Also, he is using the backboard and not the floater which gives him more accuracy. Further, his defense has improved and Groce is not pulling him when he makes a defensive mistake. I liked Tevari last year (and caught grief from many on this board) because he was not afraid to attack the basket and did not just rely on the 3 ball. I also thought he was the best passer and getting the ball to Freeman. He has really upped his game this year and fun to watch the development of a third year player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reslife4Life said: 2023/24 Shammah Scott: 30.0 3pt% 2024/25 Scott: 37.1 3pt% 2023/24 Mikal Dawson: 28.8 3pt% (lowest of his career) 2024/25 Dawson: 36.3 3pt% 2022/23 Kaleb Thornton: 36.6% 2023/24 Thornton: 32.3% "Sometimes you get good looks and they just don't fall, gotta keep shooting" - John Groce Please add Ali and Tribble. Edited January 23 by Illini Zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: Please add Ali Ali. 2021-22: 40.7% 3P 2022-23: 25.5% 3P (only 18 games played at Butler) 2023-24: 29.2% 3P Edited January 23 by Let'sGoZips94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Reslife4Life said: 2023/24 Mikal Dawson: 28.8 3pt% (lowest of his career) 2024/25 Dawson: 36.3 3pt% @Reslife4Life, Mikal is hitting 3's at a 36.3% clip this year for the Herd? Good for him. Glad to see it. His achilles must not only be fully healed but he must be mentally past his injury as well. Always loved that guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: @Reslife4Life, Mikal is hitting 3's at a 36.3% clip this year for the Herd? Good for him. Glad to see it. His achilles must not only be fully healed but he must be mentally past his injury as well. Always loved that guy. I always thought he was super underappreciated. The guy was the best offensive rebounder on missed free throws I have ever seen. Totally obscure thing, but the best to ever do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/steele-and-groce-interview/4562 Pre-game interview with Groce and Steele. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csims0917 Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Another great promo for the new rowdies. Prizes will be giving out everytime the ball goes out of bounds during both games. Hopefully this will help the women retains some students 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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