clarkwgriswold Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 We used to talk more about at-large bids on here more, but it's never completely gone away. It has decreased over the years with our collective conclusion based upon the history of the MAC never getting one and the rational realization that it's highly unlikely to ever happen. It becomes more unlikely as the level of play in the conference continues to slide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) 28 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: We used to talk more about at-large bids on here more, but it's never completely gone away. It has decreased over the years with our collective conclusion based upon the history of the MAC never getting one and the rational realization that it's highly unlikely to ever happen. It becomes more unlikely as the level of play in the conference continues to slide. Miami, whom Akron crushed, has one loss in the MAC. Be above average, and can cruise through the conference for the most part. Edited February 8 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 14 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: You and I do have different takes. I meant discussing it with an chance that it would happen. I cannot remember a serious discussion about Akron getting an at large in a long long time. The last time I think there was real discussion here was Dambrot's final season. Ever since then it's usually just 2-3 delusional posters with the rest of us trying to talk some sense into them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 If Akron wins out the MAC, I will start a thread, Should Akron get an at large bid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 I watched the replay tonight. There have been 2 truly special teams during the span of my Zips fandom: 2012-13 because of their Coaches' Poll ranking and 2019-20 because it was Groce's first talented team at Akron with a plethora of likeable guys that had a legitimate shot at wins in March if it weren't for COVID. This year's squad has a chance of entering the ranks of "special" for me. This is the most offensively talented team I've ever seen at Akron, and it's to the point where it doesn't matter what the other team does. Want to play a zone? Ok. We'll either shoot our way out of it or break it down with exceptional movement both on-ball and off-ball. 2-3 guys not shooting the ball well? No worries; guys 4-7 will step up and make the shots. The versatility and depth we possess is outstanding. South Alabama was a top 100 defense that we dismantled. Kent was a top 100 defense that we dismantled. Miami was a top offense that couldn't keep up. Ohio was a top offense that couldn't keep up. We control our destiny more than any Zips team I've ever seen because if we play our game and execute, we're borderline unbeatable by any better in the MAC or around our level. Let's Go Zips! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 https://collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25 Looking at a mid-major poll like this, I would surmise that the top 8 to 10 would be worthy of talk of an at-large bid. We sit at 14. That said, "Win 3 in Cleveland"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 We were the first team this season to drop 80 on USA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 On 2/6/2025 at 4:02 PM, HoopsFan03 said: I just want to play Cleveland State. At Cleveland 1 year and at home the next. This is such a natural rivalry and used to be one of my favorites. But Cleveland St.'s program kinda hit the skids for a while & they didn't want to schedule us any longer. We won the last 4 meetings, including a 30-point beat down in 2012-13 & CSU said 'No mas.' But their program has bounced back so maybe they'd be open to renewing the rivalry. It makes for an easy road trip for each team's fanbase. YSU too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) Have this amazing team with longest win streak in country which should continue Tuesday, and we are worried about home and home with CSU. First world problems as they say😇 Edited February 9 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 10 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: I watched the replay tonight. There have been 2 truly special teams during the span of my Zips fandom: 2012-13 because of their Coaches' Poll ranking and 2019-20 because it was Groce's first talented team at Akron with a plethora of likeable guys that had a legitimate shot at wins in March if it weren't for COVID. This year's squad has a chance of entering the ranks of "special" for me. This is the most offensively talented team I've ever seen at Akron, and it's to the point where it doesn't matter what the other team does. Want to play a zone? Ok. We'll either shoot our way out of it or break it down with exceptional movement both on-ball and off-ball. 2-3 guys not shooting the ball well? No worries; guys 4-7 will step up and make the shots. The versatility and depth we possess is outstanding. South Alabama was a top 100 defense that we dismantled. Kent was a top 100 defense that we dismantled. Miami was a top offense that couldn't keep up. Ohio was a top offense that couldn't keep up. We control our destiny more than any Zips team I've ever seen because if we play our game and execute, we're borderline unbeatable by any better in the MAC or around our level. Let's Go Zips! The only thing the concerns me come NCAAT time is that we get matched up against a team that has a great offense or defense (or both) and they are bigger than us. Bigger, stronger, and faster is very difficult to outcoach or outplay when all else is nearly equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csims0917 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Akron is at 88 for NET right now. How many wins to make the NIT is a realistic scenario to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: This is such a natural rivalry and used to be one of my favorites. But Cleveland St.'s program kinda hit the skids for a while & they didn't want to schedule us any longer. We won the last 4 meetings, including a 30-point beat down in 2012-13 & CSU said 'No mas.' But their program has bounced back so maybe they'd be open to renewing the rivalry. It makes for an easy road trip for each team's fanbase. YSU too. Both CSU and YSU were horrible when the 4 NEO teams had that coaches vs cancer annual challenge. I kind of just viewed it as another cupcake opponent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said: The only thing the concerns me come NCAAT time is that we get matched up against a team that has a great offense or defense (or both) and they are bigger than us. Bigger, stronger, and faster is very difficult to outcoach or outplay when all else is nearly equal. My first concern is actually winning 3 in Cleveland first. The rest of the MAC might be garbage, but we live in a world where a 16 seed beat a 1 seed. Anything can happen in a single elimination format. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 The lastest from Zipped U. Awesome recap of the intense week of Zips basketball plus an interesting tidbit about the Broncos as they scrounge their way towards Cleveland. https://akronzippedup.substack.com/p/zips-mens-basketball-weekly-update-df6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 11 minutes ago, csims0917 said: Akron is at 88 for NET right now. How many wins to make the NIT is a realistic scenario to think about It would heavily depend on how many P4 who miss the bubble, but decline an invitation to the NIT. When the NIT revamped the format last year, they pretty much came out and said they're looking for the teams that give the best ratings. They aren't bound like the NCAAT selection committee, who have to at least formulate an explanation on why they took the 9th place Big 10 team over a 28 win mid-major. The NIT can state they acknowledge a ~27 win Akron team is more deserving than a 17-16 Virginia team, but Virginia will drive viewers so they went with them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Who cares about the NIT right now lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Looking at the box score, what really surprised me is that Scott went 0 for 6 and had 4 turnovers. (He did have 4 assists) I have really been a Scott fan this season as I believe he as really stepped up his game especially shooting the ball and driving to the basket. Because of our dominance and balanced scoring, one guy can have an off night and it really does not get noticed. Because Young was injured in the 2nd half, he did play point guard for the first time this season and that may have hurt his game. Also, Nate had a career high 10 assists. I knew he did not score much that game but was surprised he has a career assist day. I like Groce's attitude in the post game conference, we are not worried about the winning streak, only our next opponent. It is a cliche but, take one game at a time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, 1981 grad said: Looking at the box score, what really surprised me is that Scott went 0 for 6 and had 4 turnovers. (He did have 4 assists) I have really been a Scott fan this season as I believe he as really stepped up his game especially shooting the ball and driving to the basket. Because of our dominance and balanced scoring, one guy can have an off night and it really does not get noticed. Because Young was injured in the 2nd half, he did play point guard for the first time this season and that may have hurt his game. Also, Nate had a career high 10 assists. I knew he did not score much that game but was surprised he has a career assist day. I like Groce's attitude in the post game conference, we are not worried about the winning streak, only our next opponent. It is a cliche but, take one game at a time. While he has certainly improved this year, you could tell last year as the season wound down that he had really gained Groce's confidence as he was in regularly at the end of close games. I spoke to him after the MAC Championship and pointed this out to him and how it showed his growth as well as Groce's confidence in him. When he and Young are in together, I see them as guards as opposed to distinguishing who's playing the point as they both bring the ball up and get the offense started. I've really enjoyed those two coming in together this season. There's little or no dropoff. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 I’m surprised that our road win at Kent State (5-5 in the MAC) is now a Quad 2 win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: I’m surprised that our road win at Kent State (5-5 in the MAC) is now a Quad 2 win. Agreed. By far not an expert on NET, but it has to be in large part due to the fact Kent played and lost to Auburn and Bama? Their best win is Cleveland State, or I guess now probably Arkansas state. Edited February 9 by LZIp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini Zip Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 I think of the SEC as a football conference except for Kentucky and sometimes Florida. Right now they have 9 teams in the AP Top 25. Impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Illini Zip said: I’m surprised that our road win at Kent State (5-5 in the MAC) is now a Quad 2 win. Kent has good losses. Auburn, Bama, and UC Irvine are helping their NET more than losing in the MAC has hurt it. Their win over top 100 Ark St helps too. 8 minutes ago, Illini Zip said: I think of the SEC as a football conference except for Kentucky and sometimes Florida. Right now they have 9 teams in the AP Top 25. Impressive. NET is designed to reward power conferences. The AP is designed to promote power conferences. This should be the week that Saint Mary's gets ranked, and that should tell you all you need to know about the AP Poll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 15 hours ago, zippy5 said: Who cares about the NIT right now lol Yes, F the NIT and all associated with it. Garbage tournament now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted Thursday at 02:48 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:48 AM USA up late on Ark State. Good for us since we beat USA but also because Ark State is currently one spot above us on the bracket matrix. Would most likely put us at the highest 13 seed, so one upset away from the 12 line And one upset on our end from not making it at all. Fingers crossed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted Thursday at 03:39 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:39 AM USA goes on to win 60-56. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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