UAZippers Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 10 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: If UA is Miami’s best win, then their undefeated record is hollow. They haven’t played anyone, and it shows. Playing someone like Yale or Murray State would’ve answered real questions BUT I think it's likely they lose worse than we did. Instead, if this is the model going forward, just schedule D2 and D3 schools outside of MAC play and call it what it is—and if a few D1 games are unavoidable, grab the weakest teams from the SWAC or MEAC. Against a real opponent, Miami gets boat raced. If UA played Miami 10 times, how many do you think UA would win? I think it's north of six!! I don't disagree with anything that you said. I fully believe Akron is the better team. There are teams with terrible schedules every single season. It is rare for those teams to have a 30 win season. Bad opponents or not, it is impressive to be able to go out every night and take care of business. Even the best Akron teams have one or two headscratchers every season. Once again, I still do not believe that Miami will win 30 games, but if they do I think they can pull an at large bid. 1 Quote
AkronAlumnus Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 (edited) 18 minutes ago, UAZippers said: I don't disagree with anything that you said. I fully believe Akron is the better team. There are teams with terrible schedules every single season. It is rare for those teams to have a 30 win season. Bad opponents or not, it is impressive to be able to go out every night and take care of business. Even the best Akron teams have one or two headscratchers every season. Once again, I still do not believe that Miami will win 30 games, but if they do I think they can pull an at large bid. I see where you’re coming from—it’s similar to the CFB argument. Why include two G5 teams that realistically couldn’t beat anyone in the B1G or SEC? I understand the rules that justify their inclusion, but everyone knows teams like Notre Dame, BYU, or Vanderbilt would have put up a better showing. We can take them just for the sake of inclusion, but pretending they’re truly top-25 caliber isn't good for the sport even if they run the very weak MAC. EDIT: I actually think Miami's strength of schedule got harder once MAC play started and that's really saying something. Edited January 22 by AkronAlumnus 1 Quote
kreed5120 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 37 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: If UA is Miami’s best win, then their undefeated record is hollow. They haven’t played anyone, and it shows. Playing someone like Yale or Murray State would’ve answered real questions BUT I think it's likely they lose worse than we did. Instead, if this is the model going forward, just schedule D2 and D3 schools outside of MAC play and call it what it is—and if a few D1 games are unavoidable, grab the weakest teams from the SWAC or MEAC. Against a real opponent, Miami gets boat raced. If UA played Miami 10 times, how many do you think UA would win? I think it's north of six!! I still don't think it's going to happen, but going 18-0 in MAC play would be worth an at-large. No team has gone undefeated in conference play in nearly 70 years and the MAC has seen some terrific teams during that time. That's not just a formula that you can easily replicate. I watched the end of both their games against UB and Kent and they appeared to have some bounces go their way. I don't feel they're some unbeatable juggernaut, like UB a few years ago (who ended up losing 2 MAC games), but if they achieve that feat they deserve credit. Quote
kreed5120 Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 13 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said: I see where you’re coming from—it’s similar to the CFB argument. Why include two G5 teams that realistically couldn’t beat anyone in the B1G or SEC? I understand the rules that justify their inclusion, but everyone knows teams like Notre Dame, BYU, or Vanderbilt would have put up a better showing. We can take them just for the sake of inclusion, but pretending they’re truly top-25 caliber isn't good for the sport even if they run the very weak MAC. EDIT: I actually think Miami's strength of schedule got harder once MAC play started and that's really saying something. The MAC is actually fairly strong this year. Last I saw it was ranked around 13th for conference strength. I would imagine it's still in the top 15. Quote
csims0917 Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, AkronAlumnus said: Anyone saying Miami deserves an at-large doesn't know ball There’s never been a team denied an at large with <= 2 losses. It’s hard to not have any duds even if the schedule is easy. We should know that with some of our OOC blunders in years past Edited January 22 by csims0917 1 Quote
1981 grad Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 I find this conversation ironic in that dring the KD days we would be having a conversation about Akron getting an at large bid and then we would lose a game against a weak team and the conversation would end. I am sure Miami will pick up a loss during the season and this conversation will end. However, I would love to see them go undeated and lose to Akron in the finals and have the MAC be a two bid confernce. 2 1 Quote
ZIPS96 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Zips get the national game in the MAC- Sunbelt challenge! 5 Quote
kreed5120 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 1 minute ago, ZIPS96 said: Zips get the national game in the MAC- Sunbelt challenge! I'm pleasantly surprised. I thought they would have taken a ranked Miami just because they have that number next to their name. Quote
csims0917 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 I think Marshall dropping is what made ESPN make the switch. Probably think Akron Troy will be a more entertaining game Quote
Reslife4Life Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 Umass wins at Buffalo. Now the bulls are out of the top 8. Just weird 2 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 13 hours ago, Reslife4Life said: Umass wins at Buffalo. Now the bulls are out of the top 8. Just weird If Balls can get going, they're going to make that 7/8 seed race very messy. The MAC is very much improved this year, but the separation between the top 3-4 and the rest of the conference is as vast as it has been since the Oats Buffalo days. Quote
MDZip Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 CBS has a triple header today, with Wally Szczerbiak as a commentator. Guess what is a big topic of conversation. 1 Quote
NWAkron Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, MDZip said: CBS has a triple header today, with Wally Szczerbiak as a commentator. Guess what is a big topic of conversation. They discussed why Akron is 59 in Kenpom and Miami is 88? 1 Quote
MDZip Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, NWAkron said: They discussed why Akron is 59 in Kenpom and Miami is 88? Somehow that escaped the conversation. Quote
zipsrule Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 With 1:27 to play, Kent up 58-56 over Eastern. Quote
csims0917 Posted January 24 Author Report Posted January 24 The mighty Kent state offense has dropped 69 points through 2 halves and an OT 1 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 7 hours ago, csims0917 said: The mighty Kent state offense has dropped 69 points through 2 halves and an OT All of their MAC games have been decided by 10 or less. Next Friday is going to be fun. 1 Quote
zippy5 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 11 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: All of their MAC games have been decided by 10 or less. Next Friday is going to be fun. We'll run them out of the gym 1 Quote
Zips1991 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 11 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: All of their MAC games have been decided by 10 or less. Next Friday is going to be fun. I would say that if all of their MAC games are close and all of ours (other than the loss) are not, that kinda indicates it might not be that competitive. But rivalry games don't always follow the script! 1 Quote
kreed5120 Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, Zips1991 said: I would say that if all of their MAC games are close and all of ours (other than the loss) are not, that kinda indicates it might not be that competitive. But rivalry games don't always follow the script! I feel as long as we hold our own (not necessarily win) the rebounding battle we will win comfortably. If Kent out rebounds us by 10-15 then those extra possessions can keep them around. 1 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 12 hours ago, Zips1991 said: I would say that if all of their MAC games are close and all of ours (other than the loss) are not, that kinda indicates it might not be that competitive. But rivalry games don't always follow the script! Why do you think I said Friday will be fun? 😏 1 Quote
MDZip Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 Miami is slotted as an 11 seed in most bracket projections. They are fooling a lot of people. 1 Quote
clarkwgriswold Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 On 1/25/2026 at 12:34 PM, kreed5120 said: I feel as long as we hold our own (not necessarily win) the rebounding battle we will win comfortably. If Kent out rebounds us by 10-15 then those extra possessions can keep them around. It's going to be interesting to see how Groce plans to handle the defense when Gillespie and 6'7" 290 pound Whaley are on the floor together. 4 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 21 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: It's going to be interesting to see how Groce plans to handle the defense when Gillespie and 6'7" 290 pound Whaley are on the floor together. The bigger question is will the NCAA allow Whaley to play with an oxygen tank? He's going to need constant oxygen dragging his fat rear end up and down the court all night. Gillespie got in foul trouble the other night vs Miami. Fully expect that to happen again with our athleticism. 2 2 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Kent finally pulls away from Ohio at home. A couple observations. - Ohio is pathetic. Really undisciplined and very low skill. - Read BobcatAttack and my new favorite play on words is Boalsh*t. - Whaley was wearing sunglasses on the bench at the end of the game. Sendy has another team of high class, let me tell ya. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a new diss track they've produced. 1 Quote
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