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I suspect not from his persistent whining.

If anyone is interested.... I really thought Dall, Gant, and Laventure should have been higher... and I'm surprised Dewalt didn't get mentioned (PFF had Dewalt and Reed has the second and third rated CB's in the MAC) they didn't get mentioned at all. Laventure is the second rated interior lineman in the MAC, Summers the 7th rated linebacker, and Dall the 9th rated Edge rusher AHEAD of Voorhies. White from UMASS is the seventh rated edge rusher in the ENTIRE country and somehow gets second team MAC, make that make sense???) Can't argue about Heldman and Trick though... 2025 MAC Football Postseason Specialty Awards & All-Conference Teams Coach of the Year: Lance Taylor, Western Michigan Vern Smith Leadership Award Winner: Nadame Tucker, DE, Western Michigan Offensive Player of the Year: Broc Lowry, QB, Western Michigan Defensive Player of the Year: Nadame Tucker, DE, Western Michigan Special Teams Player of the Year: Da’Realyst Clark, KOR, Kent State Freshman of the Year: Cameron Pettaway, RB/KOR, Bowling Green 2025 All-MAC First Team Offense Quarterback – Broc Lowry, Western Michigan Offensive Lineman – Trevor Brock, Buffalo Offensive Lineman – Davion Weatherspoon, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Anthony Boswell, Toledo Offensive Lineman – Raheem Anderson, Western Michigan Offensive Lineman – Chad Schuster, Western Michigan Tight End – Jyrin Johnson, Bowling Green Wide Receiver – Nik McMillan, Buffalo Wide Receiver – Victor Snow, Buffalo Wide Receiver – Kam Perry, Miami Wide Receiver – Junior Vandeross III, Toledo Running Back – Sieh Bangura, Ohio Running Back – Chip Trayanum, Toledo Placekicker – Dom Dzioban, Miami 2025 All-MAC First Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Nathan Voorhis, Ball State Defensive Lineman – Michael Heldman, Central Michigan Defensive Lineman – Adam Trick, Miami Defensive Lineman – Nadame Tucker, Western Michigan Linebacker – Gideon Lampron, Bowling Green Linebacker – Red Murdock, Buffalo Linebacker – Jordan Kwiatkowski, Central Michigan Linebacker – K’Von Sherman, Toledo Defensive Back – Eli Blakey, Miami Defensive Back – Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, Toledo Defensive Back – Andre Fuller, Toledo Defensive Back – Braden Awls, Toledo Punter – Keegan Andrews, UMass 2025 All-MAC First Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Cameron Pettaway, Bowling Green Kickoff Return Specialist – Da’Realyst Clark, Kent State 2025 All-MAC Second Team Offense Quarterback – Parker Navarro, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Nate Pabst, Bowling Green Offensive Lineman – Tyler Doty, Buffalo Offensive Lineman – Drew Terrill, Miami Offensive Lineman – Jordon Jones, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Ethan Spoth, Toledo Tight End – Joshua Long, Eastern Michigan Wide Receiver – Israel Polk, Akron Wide Receiver – Marcel Williams, Akron Wide Receiver – Chase Hendricks, Ohio Wide Receiver – Trayvon Rudolph, Toledo Running Back – Jordan Gant, Akron Running Back – Dontae McMillan, Eastern Michigan Placekicker – Jackson Kleather, Bowling Green 2025 All-MAC Second Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Julien Laventure, Akron Defensive Lineman – Jamond Mathis, Kent State Defensive Lineman – Marques White, UMass Defensive Lineman – Jay Crable, Ohio Defensive Lineman – Martez Poynter, Toledo Linebacker – Dakota Cochran, Central Michigan Linebacker – CJ Young, Kent State Linebacker – Corban Hondru, Miami Linebacker – Quinton Urwiler, Northern Illinois Defensive Back – Bryce Llewellyn, Eastern Michigan Defensive Back – Silas Walters, Miami Defensive Back – Avery Smith, Toledo Defensive Back – Tate Hallock, Western Michigan Punter – Dylan Drennan, Buffalo 2025 All-MAC Second Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Victor Snow, Buffalo Kickoff Return Specialist – Trayvon Rudolph, Toledo 2025 All-MAC Third Team Offense Quarterback – Tucker Gleason, Toledo Offensive Lineman – Keylen Davis, Akron Offensive Lineman – Mickey Rewolinski, Eastern Michigan Offensive Lineman – Eric Smith, Miami Offensive Lineman – Evan Malcore, Northern Illinois Offensive Lineman – Nick Marinaro, Ohio Tight End – Mason Williams, Ohio Wide Receiver – Langston Lewis, Central Michigan Wide Receiver – Nick Devereaux, Eastern Michigan Wide Receiver – Cade Wolford, Kent State Wide Receiver – Jacquon Gibson, UMass Running Back – Chavon Wright, Northern Illinois Running Back – Jalen Buckley, Western Michigan Placekicker – Jack Howes, Buffalo Placekicker - Cade Graham, Central Michigan 2025 All-MAC Third Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Bruno Dall, Akron Defensive Lineman – Junior Poyser, Buffalo Defensive Lineman – Malachi Davis, Toledo Defensive Lineman – Esean Carter, Toledo Linebacker – Mason Woods, Kent State Linebacker – Tyler Martin, UMass Linebacker – Jackson Kuwatch, Miami Linebacker – Chris D’Appolonia, Toledo Defensive Back – MJ Cannon, Bowling Green Defensive Back – Jalen McClendon, Bowling Green Defensive Back – Tank Pearson, Ohio Defensive Back – Josh Franklin, Western Michigan Punter – Mitchell Tomasek, Eastern Michigan 2025 All-MAC Third Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Dev’ion Reynolds, Northern Illinois Kickoff Return Specialist – Bryson Hammer, Toledo

Great article from the Beacon Journal previewing Saturday's match and drawing some similarities to the 2018 Zips team. https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/soccer/2025/12/04/akron-zips-soccer-saint-louis-ncaa-tournament-college-cup-jared-embick/87558472007/

I view the last few years as the new standard for the MAC, due to poor vision and leadership. What has the MAC done to make anyone believe they are anything more than a bottom half mid major conference? Probably a conversation for a different thread, though.

Rowdies should be expanded to include alumni.

Two reasons: He would have taken a large pay cut and a family event that he didn't want to disrupt.

Then root for Indiana football at 8.

And probably the model arena for a MAC school, one that we would probably like to have. But as we are aware, facilities are just one piece of the puzzle.

I have a request for the moderator. Can we move all the discussions about Groce leaving into its own thread like we have in football, "Coach Joe Rumor Page" I have no problems with people posting about rumors 4 weeks into the season but this thread is about Mac basketball 2025-2026, not about decisons Groce will makes 4 months from now.

But could he be a serviceable backup big? 😉

Honestly, no thanks. He can't get up and down the court like we need in Groce's style of play. Nor is he good enough, like a Freeman, to work our offense around to work through.

Hmmm. Do you think he enjoyed his visit to Akron? (other than losing the game)

The MAC was a bit of an anomaly as well for the past several seasons. Prior to covid it was pretty consistently in or around the top 15 conferences. Last year in particular the bottom fell out.

Correct, although right now is an anomaly with Memphis, Wichita St., etc. struggling. Last year, the AAC finished as the 11th best conference in NET (the MAC was 23rd for comparison). It is still closer to that Next 5 tier than it is a bottom half/one-bid conference.

It's easier to win in the American now, but it's also very much a mid-major. Before it was in an awkward position where it wasn't a power conference school, but still clearly a step above the rest. If you actually look at the top 2/3 of both conferences they're pretty much the same now. Those top 8 teams in AAC have an average NET of 122.5 while the top 8 in the MAC are 122. The only thing that separates the 2 conferences is the handful of teams at the bottom of the conference. The MAC has more dead weight.

Friday 12/5 at 7pm EST. Rematch of last year's 5A title game where Semaj's team was a runner up.

Try this

Big time, which is a little surprising considering a few of the OGs are still involved with the University.

He has had 2 winning seasons in his first 6 years at the helm. Now, Tulane was an absolute train wreck under their previous HC, Mike Dunleavy, and they did not have much success prior to him, either. Tough spot to win it looks like and I'm sure the fan base is tired of seeing the program struggle to get over any sort of consistently successful hump. Also a tough conference to win in with Memphis, Wichita St., etc., but it's much easier than it used to be with Cincy, Houston, and others departing in recent years.

Pretty sad how far the rowdies have fallen off, used to be a ruthless environment, even the first few years out of covid.

Hmm. Tulane is 6-2 with wins over Samford, Texas State, Louisiana, and Boston College. They did, however, get run off the court by New Orleans (85-63), so that has to rub the Tulane alumni the wrong way.

I'm sure they heard things said by the Rowdies about their son that still haunt them today lol. That was around the time when the Rowdies were still doing Facebook deep dives and NSFW goalie introductions.

This is the plan but it's only a great Saturday if they both win!

Still something me and my friend talk about. We were students at the time and sitting in the GA seats behind the hill. As the match went to PKs, we realized that we were sitting right behind the family of the Cal goalkeeper.

If you'd like to watch future Zips QB Semaj Beals in the PA 5-A (2nd largest division) state title game, here is a link to the NFHS Network for online streaming. Unfortunately it does require a monthly subscription for $11.99. So if you watch Semaj don't forget to cancel afterwards!