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I'll speculate it is the same reason he didn't pursue any of the other opportunities he had for a bigger payday as a P5 coordinator - He wanted to watch is kids play football, something he couldn't do if he were a P5 coordinator anywhere but Pitt. He wanted to be close to his parents in the Pittsburgh area, who are getting up there in years He wanted to be a HC again He had good memories of Akron from the Brookhart era, and believed in Akron's potential. Unfortunately the wild spending of the Proenza era, and accompanying campus growth and improvements have disappeared. And Mike Thomas is no longer the supportive AD. We now have budget cuts and an Arby's A. I like Joe, and I'm rooting hard for him. But 2-wins per year for three seasons ain't gonna cut it.

The comments about the OL not being physically good enough are simply not true. I went back and rewatched every offensive play. I counted 9 passes that were poorly thrown when the QB had a clean pocket. Also, several of the QB scrambles were unnecessary as the QB actually had time. I’m not saying the OL was perfect by any stretch, but they did enough to give the QB a chance. EDIT: This post isn’t meant to take a shot at Finley. He obviously has to play better and the coaches need to put him in more situations to be successful. Here’s every offensive play for anyone who cares to go back and rewatch. 1st Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Completed pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 2 - RPO. Completed pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 3 - Swing Pass. Completed pass. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. (Holding on WR) Play 4 - RPO. Completed Pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket.. Play 5 - RPO. Completed Pass. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 6 - Pass. Scramble by QB as he was already rolling right. Open WRs were on backside (left) of field. 6 man rush. Play 7 - Pass. Completed Pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 8 - RPO. Completed Pass. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 9 - False Start Play 10 - Pass. Scramble by QB. 4 man rush. No pressure for while. Play 11 - Pass. QB was sacked. Play was to go deep. Ohio jumped the hot route and QB had to scramble. Play 12 - Pass. Completed pass. Screen going both directions. 5 man rush. James set a block on the CB downfield. 2nd Drive: Play 1 - QB Read. Run. Blitzing safety made the tackle on RB. 5 man rush. Play 2 - Pass. Incomplete pass. QB had all day to throw and one hopped it to target. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 3 - Pass. Completed Pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 3rd Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Run by RB. Blitzing LB made the tackle. 6 man rush. Play 2 - Pass. QB scramble. QB stepped up into the pocket and then chose to keep himself. 4 man rush. Play 3 - Pass. Incomplete pass. Blitz was picked up by RB. QB errant throw to TE. 4th Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Run. LT missed block on DE that made the tackle. 4 man rush. Play 2 - Pass. Incomplete pass. QB under threw WR. Clean pocket. 3 man rush. Play 3 - Pass. Interception. QB stepped up into pocket, but instead of staying there, continued to roll left and throw an interception. 3 man rush. Clean pocket. 5th Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Incomplete pass. Pass threw slightly behind WR. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 2 - Pass. Incomplete pass. QB stepped into the pocket and overthrew the deep ball. QB hit after he threw the ball. 4 man rush. (Penalty on Ohio) Play 3 - RPO. Completed Pass. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 4 - RPO. Run. OL did not block up to either LB that made the tackle. 4 man rush. Play 5 - Run. QB draw that got blown up in the backfield by Ohio’s blitz. 6 man rush. 6th Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Completed Pass. QB was touched after he threw the ball. 4 man rush. Play 2 - RPO. Completed Pass. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 3 - RPO. Completed Pass and Touchdown. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 2ND HALF 7th Drive: Play 1 - RPO. Incomplete Pass. QB one hopped pass to WR. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. Play 2 - RPO. Run. C & G double teamed the DT who made the tackle and both decided to release DT to work to second level. 4 man rush Play 3 - Pass. Completed Pass. QB wanted to go deep, but it wasn’t there. No initial pressure. The LB (who the RB flipped) eventually got up and applied the pressure. 5 man rush. 8th Drive: 1st Play - Pass. Incomplete pass hit WR in the hands, but throw was slightly behind. 6 man rush. QB hit after releasing the ball. 2nd Play - RPO. Incomplete Pass. One hopped pass to WR. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 3rd Play - RPO. Completed Pass on TE screen. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 9th Drive: 1st Play - Pass. Completed pass to TE. 4 man rush. Pressure from LT and pressure from pulling C. QB hit after throw. 2nd Play - Pass. Fumble Recovery. QB dropped the ball on the snap and recovered it. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 3rd Play - Pass. Sack & Safety. Couldn’t see what actually happened due to previous play replay, but looked like a blitzing LB got the sack. 10th Drive: 1st Play - RPO. Completed Pass to TE. 4 man rush. Pressure came from where TE released. 2nd Play - Pass. Completed pass to RB. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 3rd Play - RPO. Incomplete pass. QB under threw WR. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. 4th Play - RPO. Incomplete pass. 6 man rush. Pressure came from LG. QB hit after throw. 5th Play - Pass. Incomplete pass. Catchable ball that was slightly high. 4 man rush. Pressure came up middle on RB blitz pickup. 11th Drive: 1st Play - RPO. Completed pass to WR (Bullock). Pressure from RT as DE had free release. QB hit on throw. 4 man rush. 2nd Play - Pass. Completed pass to TE. 3 man rush. Clean pocket. 3rd Play - Pass. Sack. RB was open, but QB didn’t see him and attempted to scramble. Pressure came through LG on a twist. 4 man rush. 12th Drive: 1st Play - QB read. QB kept and was tackled for loss. Looked like he should have gave to RB. 2nd Play - RPO. Pass completed to WR. Pressure up the middle on C, but DT never touched QB. 4 man rush. 3rd Play - Pass. Completed pass to WR. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 4th Play - RPO. Run. 4 man rush. 5th Play - RPO. Pass completed to TE. 5 man rush. Clean pocket. 6th Play - RPO. Incomplete pass. QB under threw TE. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 7th Play - RPO. Pass Completed to WR. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 8th Play - RPO. Option run by TE called back due to penalty. 9th Play - RPO. Pass completed to TE. Pressure came from LT. QB rolled out and was hit as he threw. 13th Drive: 1st Play - Pass. Completed pass to WR. 5 man rush. Pressure came from C, but QB was not touched. 2nd Play. RPO. Run. 4 man rush. 3rd Play - Pass. Interception. Pass thrown into double coverage. Everyone was covered. 4 man rush. Clean pocket. 14th Drive: 1st Play - Pass. Incomplete pass intended for WR. Under threw WR. 3 man rush. Clean pocket. 2nd Play - Finley sacked. No idea what happened as the broadcast was showing the previous play. 3rd Play - RPO. Run. Four man rush.

The AD is far too prideful to admit this hire did not work out and it's not all going according to the plan. He will not fire Moorhead, because he has one of the biggest Ego's you'll ever come in to contact with. Speaking from experience and ask anyone else in Athletics.

QB: Finley has to play better. There were times where he ripped passes and displayed his arm, but there were far too many one hoppers or overthrows. What bothered me just as much as the inaccurate passes was his movement in the pocket. A number of the pressures could have been avoided if Finley had improved footwork/awareness in the pocket. Instead, his first instinct was to roll out. What’s even worse is when he rolled left and opened his body up for a big hit and potential injury. Decision making where the ball goes also needs to improve. There were times where Moorhead was clearly frustrated as it seemed Finley missed the open man. I couldn’t see what was happening downfield, so I have to assume there was something based off Moorhead’s reactions. I’m a little surprised we didn’t see Bullock at QB for at least a series. RB: Not much to say here. Simmons and Kellom had a total of 8 attempts between the two of them. I did see the backs upend/flip a few blitzers, so there was improvement in pass protection. Snaps for Simmons and Kellom were evenly distributed. WR: As mentioned earlier, I couldn’t see most of what was going on downfield, so it’s hard to say how much separation was actually occurring. I would like to see Norton have the ball thrown his way more often if it’s one-on-one coverage. Throwing to him when he’s triple covered isn’t the best idea. That said, a few balls hit his hands that had a chance to be reeled in and it didn’t happen. TE: Newell played almost every snap again. He caught 8 passes, including one for a touchdown. He’s an offensive weapon most MAC teams don’t have in the passing game. OL: This group struggled creating room in their limited rushing opportunities. Pass protection wasn’t great, but it also wasn’t nearly as bad as it seemed. Finley has to help out his offensive line. I always take OL PFF grades with a grain of salt, but this was - by far - the best rated pass protection grading for the OL. Subbing was tightened up this week. I believe T. Williams went the whole way at center and K. Davis played almost every snap at RG. Blanchard and James played about 75% of the snaps at LT and RT respectively. Seymore took most of the snaps at LG. DL: I’m only going to say this once so I’m not overly repetitive, but the amount of missed tackles by the entire defense was horrendous. We seem to have one game a year where tackling is awful. I don’t know how many sacks and tackles for loss we should have had today, but it was a fairly high amount. The odd/three man fronts really gave Ohio issues. Moore, in-particular, was wrecking things up front. Ohio’s IOL had major issues blocking him. Lavea had his moments too. After Cheatom went down, Kabbash Richards finally showed what he can do and I have to think he earned himself more playing time going forward. Zy Brockington and Dimitri Madden saw their first defensive action of the year. LB: Fish and McCoy played the majority of snaps. McCoy led the team in tackles with 14, but also had an uncharacteristic personal foul called against him. DB: The cornerbacks actually played well. They weren’t tested that often through the air and did a solid job coming up in run support. Safety play was not always up to par and gave up several explosive plays. Ohio kept getting matchups with their only receiving threat (Owen) against the safeties/nickelbacks. Anderson received the start again after doing some good things against South Carolina last week. T. Thomas saw his first defensive action. ST: Fantastic day from the special teams. Smith hit a 49 yard FG and Book continuously flipped field position on punts. Book may be our MVP at the moment. Coaching: In the end, this falls back on the coaches. The defense had a solid gameplan, but the missed tackles are mostly fundamental issues. The offense started off strong on the scripted plays and then struggled for most of the contest. The defense managed to create two turnovers and the offense couldn’t convert on shortened field position. I’m fairly confident in saying anyone who watched this game realized it was winnable and yet the proverbial ball was dropped again. It’s no longer a talent issue and the staff needs to get it figured out. Next up is Bowling Green. Many fans and pundits alike were anointing them one of the best teams in the MAC, despite their only win coming against an 0-5 Fordham. That may still end up being the case, but they did just lose to a previously 0-3 Old Dominion squad and are currently 1-3 overall. If we have any chance to go bowling, we probably need to win either Ohio or Bowling Green and one of those has already been taken off the table. QB: Finley Bullock (in other roles) RB: Simmons Kellom WR: Norton Davis WR: Golden Rush WR: Polk Granger TE: Newell Cravaack LT: Blanchard Shor LG: Seymore Morris C Williams RG: K. Davis Burrell RT: James Thomas DE: Nunnally Cheatom Richards DE: Adler Ball DT: Lavea Brockington Madden DT: Kapongo Moore Proffitt LB: Fish Summers LB: McCoy Spriggs NB: D. Lewis T. Thomas CB: Golden-Nelson White CB: Hunter Reed DeWalt S: P. Lewis Greenwood S: J. Anderson Greenwood Top Players on Offense (25 Plays or more): TE - Newell RT - James LT - Blanchard WR - Norton LG - Seymore Top Players on Defense (25 Plays or more): DT - Moore CB - Hunter DE - Richards DT - Lavea DE - Adler Top Players on Special Teams: TBA

Didn't realize the Ohio/Kent matchup went back to 1897.

To imply that this team is playing so poorly is because of their out of conference schedule is ridiculous.

Lol I'll stand by my record on this forum since the day it was created. It's one thing to second guess a decision made by the AD or any other person employed by UA past or present, but it's never ok to make baseless character assassinations. But hey, ain't the internet great!

Whatever you say Ms. Guthrie! Stick up for your MAN!

key word in @kreed5120's statement is consistently.

Unless you or someone you know has $1 million+ sitting around somewhere unused to fund a contract buyout, the HC is not going anywhere unless he decides to resign and forego the remainder of his contract. The rest of your post is a bunch BS.

Is Moorehead under contract for two more years after this season or three? There certainly is no money for a buyout at UA, but it might be time for the AD start an unofficial search for Moorehead's replacment. I don't like to play the role of Debbie Downer, but I think I've seen enough. I did not expect a win against OU, but I did expect something more than we saw. This team is regressing. Where does the AD look now? I thought Moorehead seemed like a good choice three years ago. Now it seems even he knows it's over for all intents and purposes.

On the road at Arkansas State will be a tough Game #1.

Noah Perez started in the ECU win yesterday, went 3/3 on field goals and 3/3 on XPs in a ten point win. Got the game ball too.

Maybe other facilities might be a little more middle of the pack now, but I don’t recall reading of any brand new stadiums

The days of the University of Akron writing checks to multiple head coaches are over. The only way he's leaving is of his own volition.

This is the last year that we can give Moorhead a chance to keep his job. 3 years on the job with only 2 wins isn’t progress but status quo. I’m pulling him for this year but as fans of our Zips we deserve more. Still can’t understand firing Bowden 5 years ago. No more excuses on almost winning MAC games. Got to win 500 level or close to it for him to keep his job. Bowden was in a similar spot and finally in year 3 the rebuild turned around. I’m going to root for Moorhead until he proves me wrong with another 2 win season.

Well deserved !!!!

I think Finley deserves another game or two. Here’s the reason: This was his first mid major conference game. I agree he has to improve, but give him a minute to understand the difference between not being a P5 player vs. a G5 team. He’ll find a groove is my bet!

Gary Miller was a minor league president. He hired a minor league guy as his athletic director. Charles Guthrie is in way over his head.

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I'm not upset. I've been fairly apathetic towards the football program ever since year 2 of Ianello. I think I've only attended 1 football game in the last decade despite only living 20 minutes away. Heck, I'm going to a tailgate for homecoming Saturday, but I'll skip the game. The program has just never given me much reason to invest my time or energy. Basketball is what I'm invested in regarding Zips athletics. I'm mainly just killing my time here until the basketball season starts. I'm not advocating firing Moorhead.

Next year's schedule looks great. Maybe we are bottom 10 in talent and it won't matter, but hard to tell against OSU, Kentucky and Rutgers. We have 1 payday P5 team, 2 G5 games and an FCS. That would be my formula. 2025 is Nebraska, UAB, Wyoming and Duquesne.

You want to see them play mediocre schools = Cut them a check for $5mil then We need that money If those kids can't handle that level of competition = they don't need to be playing D1 ball then. Thats not the kids we should be recruiting We have won 8 games in 5 years Who we play at the beginning of the season is not the excuse.

These are highlights of RB Jayden Terry of Grandville, MI. We've offered Jayden, but what blew me away was the offense that Grandville runs. They run an OLD SCHOOL offense - so old it's what we ran when I played!!! Two tight ends, and a fullback w/ 2 halfbacks. Sweeeeeet!! 🔥🔥🤣

I know a few other MAC ADs. They are amazed by his nonchalance regarding the nuts and bolts of running a successful department. He wants no input from anybody.

This is what happens when you sell out for the first month. Players beat down physically and mentally with no momentum going into the actual games that matter and should be winnable

I don't think an AD usually gets a chance to hire another FB coach if his previous hire didn't work out(?)

Let’s face it, good Power 5 quarterbacks don’t end up at Akron because it’s their first choice. They end up here because it’s their last chance to be a starting D1 quarterback. Great info, as always, catdaddy. I have seen Finley make some great throws that were really impressive but also several really bad throws that far outnumber the good throws. Bottom line is that he is not a good enough QB for this team to a 90% passing team. They have to establish a running game to have any success. Maybe they should start using some more 2 tight end sets to help the running game and set up some play action passes. Something needs to change, one good drive and then multiple 3 and outs isn’t getting it done!

I don't see a statue for Bowden for our an 8-5 season and our only bowl win ever.

Infocision is 15 years old. Stile Field House is 20 years old. I really don't think that the position that we have superior facilities is any longer the case. The program has had 5 winning seasons since 2000. It is 8-51 since 2019. The program has an experienced and respected FBS level coach. For it to be this bad every damn year the problem has to be systemic within the university and overall athletics program. At that winning percentage what kid would want to come here to play?

RPI rankings for some Big East teams....as of Sunday morning 9/29 Providence 6 Georgetown 17 Seton Hall 38 Xavier 41 Akron 48 Marquette 52

The real issue is coaching. Good coaches adjust their game plans to the strengths of their personnel. JoeMo is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and his lack of adjustments is astonishing.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41422752/week-4-college-football-bottom-10-defense-lost-cause-carolina 7. Akronmonious (1-3) After witnessing the Zips in person and seeing how they pushed South Carolina into the second half, I am reluctant to keep them in these rankings. But like that photo of my ex-girlfriend that I keep digging out of the trash after my wife has thrown it away again or my DVD of "From Justin to Kelly," I can't make myself get rid of them.

Sports talk yutzes have made 40+ year careers discussing why XYZ team's backup QB should be playing, and why the incumbent coach should be fired. It's been going on here since maybe 2018? Man, I grow weary of it. I'm sure I'm not alone. If the Zips could win a few games and steer our conversations towards the other stuff (what transpired on the field, recruiting, how we match up against the next week's opponent, etc.), I'd be a happy man.

This is a president who has invested multiple millions of dollars in a meaningless affinity program with the Cleveland Browns. Those dollars should would have helped boost other enrollment initiatives, including improving the football program.

Or...the radical idea...the state could properly fund higher education like they used to, thus increasing the educational opportunities as those other schools outside OSU. Also, the state doesn't control OSU's (or any other Public University's) enrollment criteria.

Toledo's non conference schedule is Duquesne, UMass, @Mississippi State and @Western Kentucky. This is how a school that wins a lot schedules for momentum and success. UMass will be a win. MSU will be a loss. WKU will be a competitive game with a chance for a win against a good program on the road. 3-1 to start the season isn't out of the question. 2-2 should be a slam dunk. Toledo is trying to win games. @Ohio State, @Rutgers, Colgate, @South Carolina is how a program schedules for failure and zero momentum. Akron simply isn't trying to win.

It would be nice. Proenza certainly bragged that he could do it, but I just don't know how UA could make the jump to being a highly selective college. You have the 9K freshman class gorilla in the room that still has an average SAT score of around 1400. You have Miami with an average of 1280 soaking up a bunch more qualified kids. And then you have UC starting to get close to Miami in selectivity, though I've heard that they are going with a quantity over quality trend lately. Add in the kids going private or out of state, and Ohio's demographics simply don't allow for a many very selective public universities like California has with the UC system. It sucks, but it really is UA, KSU, OU, BGSU and Toledo cannibalizing each other for the leftovers. It doesn't mean that our group doesn't win the occasional battle, but it's never going to enough to truly move the needle. And besides, not every public university in a state system should strive to be highly selective. Selective enough that the kids accepted are capable of doing the work, but not everyone gets to be Berkeley.

I grew up in Erie, PA and a few dozen of us ended up going to UA. We loved the campus and were willing to pay extra (I still am lol) for out-of-state tuition. It seemed like every year there was a huge chunk of gradating seniors heading to UA from our area. But now? There's almost none. I just don't get why the University isn't seen in the same light anymore. I feel like it's way better than any school NW Pennsylvania. But for some reason kids here just aren't even considering it anymore.

He personally out scored his old team 12-10 on Saturday.

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