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  On 1/7/2024 at 3:02 AM, Zip JD said:

or at least call off the few remaining old guard ushers that chase students out of completely empty upper blue seat sections during the weeknight games.  They act like they get a bounty for every student they toss.

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They even run students out of the Zips side upper deck at football games.  It does not encourage attendance.  

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  On 1/7/2024 at 1:15 AM, NWAkron said:

then you risk upsetting the ticket holders who paid for their seats, especially if you paid a lot for a single game ticket and then a bunch of folks surround you for free.

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Yeah, you can't do that.

 

Honestly, the "big picture" issue with this Athletics Administration IMO is they don't put any effort into connecting with the average fan. Everything is focused on top donors - "The Summit Circle" being the latest example. They'd rather sell less tickets at a higher price than create deals/promotions at a lower "get in" rate to more people.  Watch which people the AD mingles with at games and the picture gets much clearer.

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  On 1/7/2024 at 4:33 AM, Zippy87 said:

 

Yeah, you can't do that.

 

Honestly, the "big picture" issue with this Athletics Administration IMO is they don't put any effort into connecting with the average fan. Everything is focused on top donors - "The Summit Circle" being the latest example. They'd rather sell less tickets at a higher price than create deals/promotions at a lower "get in" rate to more people.  Watch which people the AD mingles with at games and the picture gets much clearer.

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In what world is a $10 GA ticket considered expensive?

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  On 1/7/2024 at 4:33 AM, Zippy87 said:

 

Yeah, you can't do that.

 

Honestly, the "big picture" issue with this Athletics Administration IMO is they don't put any effort into connecting with the average fan. Everything is focused on top donors - "The Summit Circle" being the latest example. They'd rather sell less tickets at a higher price than create deals/promotions at a lower "get in" rate to more people.  Watch which people the AD mingles with at games and the picture gets much clearer.

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Well I mean, you can. SC just did, hence this discussion.

 

If I had lower season tickets, I'd welcome some fans near me instead of empty seats. 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 12:57 PM, LZIp said:

In what world is a $10 GA ticket considered expensive?

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Depends on what it's for. 

 

For one of the best Zips teams in a long time playing against opponents in a very good league and entertaining games, it's probably under priced. $10 to see a D1 basketball game is peanuts. 

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Let's be frank.  When in the history of Akron athletics, other than for Acme Zip games and a rare and brief run of an individual team, ever engaged the average Akron area sports fan?  You'll find greater allegiance to the Browns, Indians/Guardians, Buckeyes, Cavs, college alma maters, Notre Dame and high school teams among the average Summit County folk sports fan than you'll find for the Zips.

 

One place I see an improvement that may help a little is the Beacon's new approach to Zips athletics.  The basketball coverage this year has been a vast improvement with great coverage.  Actually providing the average area fan with relevant info about the team can help spark interest.  Is it going to fill the JAR or Infocision, no, but maybe it will get dad to grab his son and head down to the JAR some night to see the good things that are happening.

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  On 1/7/2024 at 4:33 AM, Zippy87 said:

 

Yeah, you can't do that.

 

Honestly, the "big picture" issue with this Athletics Administration IMO is they don't put any effort into connecting with the average fan. Everything is focused on top donors - "The Summit Circle" being the latest example. They'd rather sell less tickets at a higher price than create deals/promotions at a lower "get in" rate to more people.  Watch which people the AD mingles with at games and the picture gets much clearer.

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The lower bowl used to rock at Zips games but now it is mostly blue hairs that don't bring the energy they used to.  I'm thankful that they keep coming out to the games and that they put their $$$ into the program but the JAR is nothing like the rocking little band box it used to be.

 

Also, I would love it if some of the lower bowl fans would stop heading out early even when it is a 3-point game with 3 minutes left.  The better seats get the closer lots, but a lot of those fans are not going to fight the 1200 fan pandemonium as the JAR empties.  

 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 4:33 AM, Zippy87 said:

 

Yeah, you can't do that.

 

Honestly, the "big picture" issue with this Athletics Administration IMO is they don't put any effort into connecting with the average fan. Everything is focused on top donors - "The Summit Circle" being the latest example. They'd rather sell less tickets at a higher price than create deals/promotions at a lower "get in" rate to more people.  Watch which people the AD mingles with at games and the picture gets much clearer.

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I guess the question is "why not both?"  Frankly, George Van Horn an Larry Williams were notorious for only courting the biggest of donors.  However, they did have assistants, Brock Kline and Tim Faix, who did reach out to the smaller donors and developed relationships with them.   Guthrie on down are imports, and you know they aren't going to be here long.  On the other hand, Tim and Brock moved on as well.  The Summit Circle and name recognition for larger donors is important, and they should be recognized for their commitment. Most of the Summit Circle members are successful Akron grads.  Which leads to my next point:

 

The focus should be more student outreach.  Gets the students hooked now on Zips basketball.  Of course, the basketball schedule falls smack in the middle of holidays and Winter break.

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  On 1/7/2024 at 2:46 PM, clarkwgriswold said:

Let's be frank.  When in the history of Akron athletics, other than for Acme Zip games and a rare and brief run of an individual team, ever engaged the average Akron area sports fan?  You'll find greater allegiance to the Browns, Indians/Guardians, Buckeyes, Cavs, college alma maters, Notre Dame and high school teams among the average Summit County folk sports fan than you'll find for the Zips.

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They used to at least try. I remember game day promotions, t-shirt giveaways for students, unique ticket deals. This Athletic Department seems apathetic toward anyone who isn't a wealthy donor. 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 3:03 PM, NWAkron said:

I guess the question is "why not both?"  Frankly, George Van Horn an Larry Williams were notorious for only courting the biggest of donors.  However, they did have assistants, Brock Kline and Tim Faix, who did reach out to the smaller donors and developed relationships with them.   Guthrie on down are imports, and you know they aren't going to be here long.  On the other hand, Tim and Brock moved on as well.  The Summit Circle and name recognition for larger donors is important, and they should be recognized for their commitment. Most of the Summit Circle members are successful Akron grads.  Which leads to my next point:

 

The focus should be more student outreach.  Gets the students hooked now on Zips basketball.  Of course, the basketball schedule falls smack in the middle of holidays and Winter break.

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I get the need to engage and keep big donors happy but yeah, have people on your team dedicated the other fans. If budget is tight, get some GAs with energy and enthusiasm. 

 

 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 3:23 PM, Zippy87 said:

 

For a bleacher seat, it is IMO. But the more unreasonable costs are the reserved ones.

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Then what should the price be? A friend of mine made a good point to me about price increases last week. He said the only difference between a 5% and 10% price increase is the noise from the channels. People are always going to complain about pricing. If the price was $1.00 per ticket, there would be a certain number of people who complain. 

 

The worst seats for a Wake Forest basketball game are further away from the court than the bleacher seats in Akron and in the upper deck behind the basket. They are also the cheapest at $40 per seat plus a parking fee per game. The price of GA tickets at UA is peanuts. A family of four can attend a game for $40. That same family of four would have to pay $160 at Wake. 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 5:15 PM, Blue & Gold said:

Really? Who brews theirs?

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Sibling Revelry in Westlake. Kent grads run it, apparently. Fortunately, Zips beer is much better and actually brewed in Akron. The Kent stuff is a trashy waste of grain and hops. They will have the advantage of wider distribution, but Akron did better this time around. Many years too late. 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 4:28 PM, GP1 said:

Then what should the price be? A friend of mine made a good point to me about price increases last week. He said the only difference between a 5% and 10% price increase is the noise from the channels. People are always going to complain about pricing. If the price was $1.00 per ticket, there would be a certain number of people who complain. 

 

The worst seats for a Wake Forest basketball game are further away from the court than the bleacher seats in Akron and in the upper deck behind the basket. They are also the cheapest at $40 per seat plus a parking fee per game. The price of GA tickets at UA is peanuts. A family of four can attend a game for $40. That same family of four would have to pay $160 at Wake. 

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Why are we comparing Akron to Wake Forest, a good ACC team with a legitimate arena that has hosted the NCAA Tournament multiple times? Do people there sit on old bleachers, some of which have an obstructed view of the game?

 

Part of marketing in knowing and being realistic about what you have to offer. Yes, $10 for any non-chair ticket is too much. Something like $7 would be a fair price. 

 

 

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  On 1/7/2024 at 6:59 PM, Zippy87 said:

 

Why are we comparing Akron to Wake Forest, a good ACC team with a legitimate arena that has hosted the NCAA Tournament multiple times? Do people there sit on old bleachers, some of which have an obstructed view of the game?

 

Part of marketing in knowing and being realistic about what you have to offer. Yes, $10 for any non-chair ticket is too much. Something like $7 would be a fair price. 

 

 

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You can barely see the game going on from those seats. To watch them play Delaware State, NJIT, Presbyterian and Charleston Southern?

 

Going from $10 to $7 is meaningless. Going from $10 to $13 would be equally as meaningless. 

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