Checking in on Some Former Zips

[Zippy87]

Kansas State is 0-5 in the Big 12, last place in the conference, and 9-9 overall. Utah is just ahead of them at 1-4, 9-9 overall. It doesn't look like Johnson or Okonkwo will be playing in the NCAA Tournament again. 

[ZippyRulz]

Sounds like they have coaching deficits. Would JG go B12?

 

[1981 grad]

31 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

Kansas State is 0-5 in the Big 12, last place in the conference, and 9-9 overall. Utah is just ahead of them at 1-4, 9-9 overall. It doesn't look like Johnson or Okonkwo will be playing in the NCAA Tournament again. 

Instead, they will be reviewing their stock portfolio with the money they received from Kansas State and Utah.  (LOL)

[Captain Kangaroo]

26 minutes ago, 1981 grad said:

Instead, they will be reviewing their stock portfolio with the money they received from Kansas State and Utah.  (LOL)

If they're smart they'll still invest it with Bud.

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, Zippy87 said:

Kansas State is 0-5 in the Big 12, last place in the conference, and 9-9 overall. Utah is just ahead of them at 1-4, 9-9 overall. It doesn't look like Johnson or Okonkwo will be playing in the NCAA Tournament again. 

 

https://tenor.com/view/woody-harrelson-crying-money-wipe-tears-rich-gif-16201471

 

Edit: Only a serious note, Nate was an outstanding player but any team desperate enough to give him $1.6 million or give Okonkwo any sizable sum probably wasn't going to go far regardless.

Edited January 19 by kreed5120

[Captain Kangaroo]

1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

 

https://tenor.com/view/woody-harrelson-crying-money-wipe-tears-rich-gif-16201471

 

Edit: Only a serious note, Nate was an outstanding player but any team desperate enough to give him $1.6 million or give Okonkwo any sizable sum probably wasn't going to go far regardless.

It will be interesting to see how the leash shortens on coaching tenures of those guiding underachieving teams with big payrolls. If I were the donor that ponied up a million bucks to buy Nate Johnson I’d be pretty angry about only having a .500 record to show for it. I’d probably be making some demands if they want me to cut more checks in the future.

[Illini Zip]

4 hours ago, ZippyRulz said:

Sounds like they have coaching deficits. Would JG go B12?

 

We might be thinking in a similar manner. As much as Nate had really improved and earned MAC Player of the Year he still had a few bad tendencies. Taking a play off here and there. And he was always good for one head-scratching pass or a missed dunk per game. I’m not being critical, just saying that was the Nate we experienced and he had Groce staring him down from the bench. I can’t imagine a new coach, any new coach could possibly know exactly which buttons to push to get the best out of Nate in one season. Or it could be just a bad situation all together. 
 

[kreed5120]

48 minutes ago, Illini Zip said:

We might be thinking in a similar manner. As much as Nate had really improved and earned MAC Player of the Year he still had a few bad tendencies. Taking a play off here and there. And he was always good for one head-scratching pass or a missed dunk per game. I’m not being critical, just saying that was the Nate we experienced and he had Groce staring him down from the bench. I can’t imagine a new coach, any new coach could possibly know exactly which buttons to push to get the best out of Nate in one season. Or it could be just a bad situation all together. 
 

 

Nate Johnson isn't the problem at Kansas State IMO. If you look at his numbers his FG%, 3P%, FT%, steals, and assists are all above last years numbers. His point total is down because his shot attempts are just down because he's Kansas State's 3 or 4th scoring option, not first.

 

I actually don't think Kansas State is all that bad. I actually watched their game against Oklahoma St. the other night. They just play in what looks to be a very strong conference and have lost some close games OSU and Arizona State. Not to mention they lost to #7 Nebraska by 1. They can field a strong starting 5, but their bench looks underwhelming. Instead of giving Nate what they did they probably should have split that money adding 2-3 players instead. They would likely be in a better place.

Edited January 19 by kreed5120

[Reslife4Life]

7 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

If they're smart they'll still invest it with Bud.

“Coach is right this isn’t just about hoops, it’s about our future!”

Edited January 19 by Reslife4Life

[Zippy87]

6 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Nate Johnson isn't the problem at Kansas State IMO. If you look at his numbers his FG%, 3P%, FT%, steals, and assists are all above last years numbers. His point total is down because his shot attempts are just down because he's Kansas State's 3 or 4th scoring option, not first.

 

I actually don't think Kansas State is all that bad. I actually watched their game against Oklahoma St. the other night. They just play in what looks to be a very strong conference and have lost some close games OSU and Arizona State. Not to mention they lost to #7 Nebraska by 1. They can field a strong starting 5, but their bench looks underwhelming. Instead of giving Nate what they did they probably should have split that money adding 2-3 players instead. They would likely be in a better place.

 

He's not playing especially well in conference play:

 

In 5 games:

 

8.6 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 4.2 APG, 2.2 TOPG

26 FG%, 29 3 PT%

 

Edited January 20 by Zippy87

[ZipsFan31]

Both okonkwo and Johnson are starting in big 12 basketball. Their teams are sub .500 

 

Our team would have been loaded if money was not a factor. They both would have had more fun here. But who can blame them for getting life changing money 

[Reslife4Life]

1 hour ago, ZipsFan31 said:

Both okonkwo and Johnson are starting in big 12 basketball. Their teams are sub .500 

 

Our team would have been loaded if money was not a factor. They both would have had more fun here. But who can blame them for getting life changing money 

I'll take Evan over Okonkwo any day