NWAkron Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Confirmed a 3rd time. No individual stats. So far it is working. I was always more interested in seeing which of the opposing team was scoring well not as much the Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 9:50 PM, zippy5 said: Pretty lame imo Expand I have ZERO problem with it. Focus on the team, not the individual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 2:08 AM, lilroodude said: I have ZERO problem with it. Focus on the team, not the individual. Expand The boards are for fans. I can go to my high school alma mater and see the players points on the scoreboard. I get it, just think it's lame with the new shiny toys we have in the JAR now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 2:25 AM, zippy5 said: The boards are for fans. I can go to my high school alma mater and see the players points on the scoreboard. I get it, just think it's lame with the new shiny toys we have in the JAR now. Expand I'd like to know if some of the people who are claiming that they are "OK with this" are the same people who have been b*tching about the Akron Fan Experience on here for years. When it was first mentioned, I thought it had to be either a mistake or a mechanical problem. I've never heard of this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 It'd be nice to at least be able to track how many points & fouls each player has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 10:37 AM, skip-zip said: I'd like to know if some of the people who are claiming that they are "OK with this" are the same people who have been b*tching about the Akron Fan Experience on here for years. When it was first mentioned, I thought it had to be either a mistake or a mechanical problem. I've never heard of this before. Expand I'm perfectly OK with this, and I haven't complained about the fan experience. Anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I mean is it a minor inconvenience? I guess... WGAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) It's definitely been done before. A few years ago Kent State had a "no stats" approach on their scoreboards. I don't recall if it was Ford or Senderoff, but one of them decided it would help a struggling offense. Wonder if Groce did this at OU or Illinois too? Honestly I'm okay with whatever the coaches think will work best. Edited November 21, 2017 by akzipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 2:08 AM, lilroodude said: I have ZERO problem with it. Focus on the team, not the individual. Expand Then why have the player's name on the back of the jersey? Blatant focus on the individual as far as I'm concerned. I remain extremely worried how we will ever win on the road, with the opponent's scoreboard keeping running tallies of our players points and fouls. And, what if a member of True Blue yells out "HEY DUVIVIER...YOU HAVE 9 POINTS AND THREE FOULS!!" while we're at Buffalo? Crap...we're doomed. It does give me a deeper appreciation for Keith Dambrot, who won 87 percent of the games he coached at the JAR despite having the player's points and fouls being displayed at both ends of the floor. The guy was a miracle worker. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 1:29 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: Then why have the player's name on the back of the jersey? Blatant focus on the individual as far as I'm concerned. Expand Maybe that's why every guy was Peters in the CSU game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 1:29 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: I remain extremely worried how we will ever win on the road, with the opponent's scoreboard keeping running tallies of our players points and fouls. And, what if a member of True Blue yells out "HEY DUVIVIER...YOU HAVE 9 POINTS AND THREE FOULS!!" while we're at Buffalo? Crap...we're doomed. Expand And you may remember that they display them for 100% of the game when you're playing in Cleveland, on all 4 sides of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 1:29 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: Then why have the player's name on the back of the jersey? Blatant focus on the individual as far as I'm concerned. I remain extremely worried how we will ever win on the road, with the opponent's scoreboard keeping running tallies of our players points and fouls. And, what if a member of True Blue yells out "HEY DUVIVIER...YOU HAVE 9 POINTS AND THREE FOULS!!" while we're at Buffalo? Crap...we're doomed. It does give me a deeper appreciation for Keith Dambrot, who won 87 percent of the games he coached at the JAR despite having the player's points and fouls being displayed at both ends of the floor. The guy was a miracle worker. Expand I would rather watch good basketball than read crappy individual stats. If the coach thinks this will help his team win, I am 100% for it. Considering the 2 of the 3 vets from last year have not had great games, it has been fun to watch the last 2 games. I know it is early but thus far I have been impressed with the discipline of this team, the foul shooting, the defense, and the overall team quickness. I also liked the coaches post game comments where he talked about where the team needs to improve and how far they have to go to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 7:33 PM, NWAkron said: The plot thickens. I received another confirmation on the nixing of individual stats. I hope this doesn't turn into "StatGate." I personally prefer having the overall stats displayed more than the individual...but I'm sure Skip Zip will have the opposite point of view Expand Might have been a halftime or timeout quick display. I specifically recall my son pointing out that no Akron player was in any kind of foul trouble fairly deep into the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 WatchESPN replay found here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 2:45 PM, 1981 grad said: I would rather watch good basketball than read crappy individual stats. Expand Why do you need to make the choice? Did't you watch good basketball for the past 13 years, and have some stats? It is simply bizarre, in 2017, to have a brand new hi-def scoreboard, 4 high-resolution sideboards, and you don't use them to tell the fans the game point, rebound and foul information. Was this equipment installed simply to have grainy footage of elderly people making out on the Kiss Cam? Why does Steve French, during his broadcast, tell you how many points or fouls a player has? It's because fans want to know this information. If I'm at the game, and there are 5 different scoreboards in my immediate viewing area, it is bizarre that I need to check my phone to see how many points Daniel Utomi has scored. It happens no where else in the world but the JAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I made a post in the renovation thread after seeing the ribbon boards that provided team stats saying something along the lines of thank god I don't need to check my phone anymore. At the time I didn't realize they took away the individual player stat boards. I assumed if anything they would have expanded individual stats to include rebounds and assists totals. I was wrong and now retract my statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 5:16 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: Why do you need to make the choice? Did't you watch good basketball for the past 13 years, and have some stats? It is simply bizarre, in 2017, to have a brand new hi-def scoreboard, 4 high-resolution sideboards, and you don't use them to tell the fans the game point, rebound and foul information. Was this equipment installed simply to have grainy footage of elderly people making out on the Kiss Cam? Why does Steve French, during his broadcast, tell you how many points or fouls a player has? It's because fans want to know this information. If I'm at the game, and there are 5 different scoreboards in my immediate viewing area, it is bizarre that I need to check my phone to see how many points Daniel Utomi has scored. It happens no where else in the world but the JAR. Expand How come they don't show live stats for football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 6:07 PM, Hilltopper said: How come they don't show live stats for football? Expand Because the game is a lot slower - People aren't scoring every 15 seconds. Do you really want to know when a player goes from 13 to 17 total yards rushing? I can't believe I need to explain this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 6:57 PM, Captain Kangaroo said: Because the game is a lot slower - People aren't scoring every 15 seconds. Do you really want to know when a player goes from 13 to 17 total yards rushing? I can't believe I need to explain this.... Expand Yeah. For me it's not so much of this being that big of a deal, but an overall continuation of athletics continually shooting themselves in the foot. New scoreboards? Let's use standard definition video and not show player stats. Brilliant! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 7:11 PM, zippy5 said: athletics continually shooting themselves in the foot. New scoreboards? Let's use standard definition video and not show player stats. Brilliant! Expand I get it. Just when you have hope that we've developed something "special", we somehow end up turning it into a head-shaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I don't think they were ordered and installed with the intent not to use them for individual stats. Im sure the coaching staff considered that away games would have those stats displayed, so I gather this is an attempt to engrain a mindset into the players. Personally, I don't understand the angst about this, but we all watch the game with different perspectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yeah, for starters in football a player can't be disqualified from a game for committing a certain number of penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 7:29 PM, kreed5120 said: Yeah, for starters in football a player can't be disqualified from a game for committing a certain number of penalties. Expand Ehhh.....2 personal fouls get you kicked out and 1 targeting penalty gets you kicked out IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyfan34 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 7:35 PM, LZIp said: Ehhh.....2 personal fouls get you kicked out and 1 targeting penalty gets you kicked out IIRC. Expand Yes, ask Alvin Davis. 3 times this year I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) On 11/21/2017 at 7:35 PM, LZIp said: Ehhh.....2 personal fouls get you kicked out and 1 targeting penalty gets you kicked out IIRC. Expand Yes, but those aren't 'common fouls'. I'm not asking for the basketball boards to keep track of technical fouls or flagrant. Edited November 21, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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