1981 grad Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 9:49 AM, Hilltopper said: KD once explained to me the plight of the mid-majors. If you want to field a team that has a chance to make some noise comprimises have to be made when recruiting players. The P5 schools gobble up all the sure bet players. Some of them may never see the floor, but hey they played for Duke, NC, etc... That leaves guys who have talent but also some baggage that scared away the big schools. Guys like Tree(bad temper), BigDog(weight issues), Harney(weed, attitude), etc... For a mid-major coach to be successful he has to juggle all these guys with problems and find enough other role players to put together a winning team. Sometimes those combinations just don't work out. With the advent of the transfer rules it has made it easy for players and coaches to get a divorce. Somebody told me that the year he recruited Tree and Harney was the year that Larry Nance went to KD and wanted Little Larry to go to Akron but KD had recruited Tree and Harney and did not have a scholarship for Nance and wanted him to walk on. I have no idea if this is true but if it is true it just support his theory that you never know what combinations will work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: Somebody told me that the year he recruited Tree and Harney was the year that Larry Nance went to KD and wanted Little Larry to go to Akron but KD had recruited Tree and Harney and did not have a scholarship for Nance and wanted him to walk on. I have no idea if this is true but if it is true it just support his theory that you never know what combinations will work out. Both Larry Nance Jr. and C.J. McCollum wanted to attend UA and KD had scholarships available for neither. Can you believe it? ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, 1981 grad said: Somebody told me that the year he recruited Tree and Harney was the year that Larry Nance went to KD and wanted Little Larry to go to Akron but KD had recruited Tree and Harney and did not have a scholarship for Nance and wanted him to walk on. I have no idea if this is true but if it is true it just support his theory that you never know what combinations will work out. 2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: Both Larry Nance Jr. and C.J. McCollum wanted to attend UA and KD had scholarships available for neither. Can you believe it? ??? Embarrassing. Inexcusable. Negligible. Horrendous. Any other negative words I can use to describe how atrocious the above comments are? Ooo, atrocious. Add that. I'm not surprised Larry Jr. wanted to come to Akron. I played in the summer youth camps with him. It was very cool seeing Sr., Jr., and Pete all at the JAR consistently for those camps each year. The Nance family is all about their hometown area, and Larry would have excelled in Blue & Gold. He put Wyoming on the map; imagine where Akron would have been (granted those were the years we became semi-ranked and garnered a lot of national media attention). I'm glad KD is gone, especially after reading this. This is similar to the Browns not drafting Clay Matthews Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Embarrassing. Inexcusable. Negligible. Horrendous. Any other negative words I can use to describe how atrocious the above comments are? Ooo, atrocious. Add that. I'm not surprised Larry Jr. wanted to come to Akron. I played in the summer youth camps with him. It was very cool seeing Sr., Jr., and Pete all at the JAR consistently for those camps each year. The Nance family is all about their hometown area, and Larry would have excelled in Blue & Gold. He put Wyoming on the map; imagine where Akron would have been (granted those were the years we became semi-ranked and garnered a lot of national media attention). I'm glad KD is gone, especially after reading this. This is similar to the Browns not drafting Clay Matthews Jr. I disagree! My point was that it is difficult to determine who will excel in college. Larry had some type of fatigue problem that was finally diagnosed when he was in college and after he got better his career took off. Tree and Harney were great recruits who had their issues at Akron. Tree is playing great ball in Israel. Not sure what Harney is doing. Glad to see Little Larry playing so well for the Cavs. I also agree that the Nance family is first rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: I disagree! My point was that it is difficult to determine who will excel in college. Larry had some type of fatigue problem that was finally diagnosed when he was in college and after he got better his career took off. Tree and Harney were great recruits who had their issues at Akron. Tree is playing great ball in Israel. Not sure what Harney is doing. Glad to see Little Larry playing so well for the Cavs. I also agree that the Nance family is first rate. I agree it's difficult to determine who will excel in college, but you don't pass on a local bloodline like the Nance family. Not only did Sr. excel in the NBA, but now Jr. is excelling and Pete is at Northwestern. It's a family of athletes. If one of them expresses interest in your school - especially a school like Akron - you leave a scholarship open for them. Tree is one of my all-time favorite Zips to watch, but I would have taken the chance on Nance Jr., even with his supposed "fatigue" problems, over Harney who had academic & hustle issues. Hindsight is 20/20, though. I don't disagree with CJ McCollum. He was a scorer, so he had that going for him, but he exploded out of nowhere. I just think Nance is a huge miss, especially if there was mutual interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: I agree it's difficult to determine who will excel in college, but you don't pass on a local bloodline like the Nance family. Not only did Sr. excel in the NBA, but now Jr. is excelling and Pete is at Northwestern. It's a family of athletes. If one of them expresses interest in your school - especially a school like Akron - you leave a scholarship open for them. Tree is one of my all-time favorite Zips to watch, but I would have taken the chance on Nance Jr., even with his supposed "fatigue" problems, over Harney who had academic & hustle issues. Hindsight is 20/20, though. I don't disagree with CJ McCollum. He was a scorer, so he had that going for him, but he exploded out of nowhere. I just think Nance is a huge miss, especially if there was mutual interest. I may be wrong but I think Wyoming might have been his only division one offer and that came from a Nance Sr. connection. I do not believe Larry was highly recruited and Kd went for Harney and Tree who probably had better high school careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 In hindsight, anybody would have been an improvement over the underachieving malcontent whiner Harney. That guy's my second least favorite Zip of all-time, right behind Khadim Gueye (and it's close). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kreed5120 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) They went onto play at Lehigh and Wyoming. I also think both only had 1 D1 offer. If anyone reputable believed they would turn out to be half as good as they ended up being they would have at least received A10 or MVC offers. Some guys just really develop and flourish after high school. Ja Morant & Steph Curry are other examples. Edited January 16, 2020 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Lets clear some things up. KD did offer Nance a scholarship but his dad encouraged him to go to Wyoming. Larry Shyatt was a mentor to Nance sr and he felt that would be the best place for his son. As fars as McCollum is concerned, it is true that there was not a scholarship available for him. KD is a very loyal guy. Until the recent madness surrounding the transfer portal he would never dream of pulling a scholarship just to give it to another recruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsVoice Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: but you don't pass on a local bloodline like the Nance family. Summit Racing Motorsports Park in Norwalk will be offering scholarships to both boys once their playing careers are over, so we can hear "SUNDAY! At Norwalk Raceway!!! Come on out and watch Drag Racing with the Nances!!!!" ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Hilltopper said: Lets clear some things up. KD did offer Nance a scholarship but his dad encouraged him to go to Wyoming. Larry Shyatt was a mentor to Nance sr and he felt that would be the best place for his son. As fars as McCollum is concerned, it is true that there was not a scholarship available for him. KD is a very loyal guy. Until the recent madness surrounding the transfer portal he would never dream of pulling a scholarship just to give it to another recruit. Thanks for clearing that up. I started this topic when somebody told me that Nance Sr. wanted Kd to offer Larry and he did not offer. I did not know if this was true and indicated in my post. My point being that you never know who is going to excel in college. Coming out of high school Tree and Harney were great recruits for Kd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, 1981 grad said: Coming out of high school Tree and Harney were great recruits for Kd. I would say they were "high-risk/high reward" recruits. And in the end the risk outweighed the rewards. I don't fault KD for giving them a shot, but it seems like the exception rather than the rule that non-qualifiers pan out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 I just noticed that KD is bringing the Dukes to Akron again for a game against Radford on Dec 14. It was announced initially it was going to be at Firestone High School, but has been moved to Ellet. Duquesne's arena is still being renovated and they're playing games in a couple different Pittsburgh arenas, too. Maybe hooking up with Lebron's school again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 I count ten...TEN cupcakes to begin the season for the Dukes. Ah ah ahhhhhhhhh! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 Unsure if there is more background I'm missing, but they aren't even playing inner city game vs Pitt this year?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I count ten...TEN cupcakes to begin the season for the Dukes. Ah ah ahhhhhhhhh! Should go 12-0 in the OOC, meaning he only has to win a pedestrian 8 conference games to get to the magical 20 number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 This years Duquesne OOC schedule makes some of his prior Akron OOC schedules look like a gauntlet. I'm guessing all the tourney caliber teams must have been "too afraid" to play Duquesne this year... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, LZIp said: Unsure if there is more background I'm missing, but they aren't even playing inner city game vs Pitt this year?? City Game is taking a one year hiatus, it's back next year. Think Pitt had a scheduling snafu with playing FSU to open the season and going to 20 ACC games Edited November 25, 2019 by zippy5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NWAkron Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 10:37 AM, Let'sGoZips94 said: Should go 12-0 in the OOC, meaning he only has to win a pedestrian 8 conference games to get to the magical 20 number. Losses to Marshall and UAB sadly ended their dream season. They even got one Top 25 vote prior to heading face first into the Conference USA buzzsaw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, NWAkron said: Losses to Marshall and UAB sadly ended their dream season. They even got one Top 25 vote prior to heading face first into the Conference USA buzzsaw. Ouch Edited December 30, 2019 by Zipmeister . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2020/01/12/senior-josh-williams-gives-robert-morris-loads-of-confidence/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 12/30/2019 at 7:49 AM, NWAkron said: Losses to Marshall and UAB sadly ended their dream season. They even got one Top 25 vote prior to heading face first into the Conference USA buzzsaw. 4 straight conference wins.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: 4 straight conference wins.. I'm sure excitement is building in Pittsburgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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