blueandgold Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 I found this sort of funny. https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pittsburgh-steelers-hire-tom-arth-passing-game-coordinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 He is actually being hired as the QBs coach. Insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Go Browns Edited February 9 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head coach Huell Jackson Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 https://www.threads.net/@zipsbarstool/post/C3Ip7PZO1Ff/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== Hilarious 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 He's a good QB coach. Bad college HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 9 Author Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Head coach Huell Jackson said: https://www.threads.net/@zipsbarstool/post/C3Ip7PZO1Ff/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== Hilarious 😂 It's possible that he could make Kenny Pickett even worse than he is now. Edited February 9 by blueandgold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1996MAENG Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Considering Arth's lack of success at UA, he's fallen ass-backwards into a good job in the NFL. Whether he can do it or not is doubtful. In related UA topics....Over at 11 Warriors the OSU crowd seems to want Moorhead to replace Bill O'Brien, who is headed to Boston College. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2024/02/145346/10-possible-candidates-to-replace-bill-o-brien-as-ohio-state-s-offensive-coordinator#comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 31 minutes ago, zippy5 said: He's a good QB coach. Bad college HC Is he considered to have been successful with Herbert? I don't pay attention to the Chargers just know they stunk and everyone got fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Coaching in the NFL is a riot. Once you're in, you're in. Jon Cooley, who Arth had on his staff here in 2019 and was on the Kent staff in 2018, is on his 2nd NFL team already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 I hope he sucks even more in Pittsburgh than he did here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 What a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Despite his experience here, I think Arth is fairly well regarded in NFL circles. Some guys are great position coaches/assistants but don't have the administrative and motivational skills to be an effective head coach. Maybe he's one of those guys. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipCat Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 The Peter Principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) On 2/11/2024 at 4:28 PM, clarkwgriswold said: Despite his experience here, I think Arth is fairly well regarded in NFL circles. Some guys are great position coaches/assistants but don't have the administrative and motivational skills to be an effective head coach. Maybe he's one of those guys. Reality it was a huge mistake to bring in a guy with no FBS experience without requiring him to have a Chuck Amato type of OC/DC. He was way in over his head. You see it all levels. Some people are fantastic OC/DC/ position coaches, but when promoted to a higher role fail miserably. Edited February 27 by kreed5120 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsfan33 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 10 hours ago, kreed5120 said: Reality it was a huge mistake to bring in a guy with no FBS experience without requiring him to have a Chuck Amato type of OC/DC. He was way in over his head. You see it all levels. Some people are fantastic OC/DC/ position coaches, but when promoted to a higher role fail miserable. I defended Arth as long as I could, but after so long there was just nothing left to defend. Its a shame he was set up to fail, but can anyone be surprised by that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 Just curious. “Set up to fail”? He was an experienced college coach (not at this level) 40-8 at John Carroll, including a 12-2 9-0 season in D3. Sure the talent levels and size are way different, the X’s and O’s don’t change much. You make strategies to take advantages of their weaknesses while understanding your own. unless you don’t know how to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Arth is Playing a Critical Role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 On 2/26/2024 at 11:40 AM, kreed5120 said: Reality it was a huge mistake to bring in a guy with no FBS experience without requiring him to have a Chuck Amato type of OC/DC. He was way in over his head. You see it all levels. Some people are fantastic OC/DC/ position coaches, but when promoted to a higher role fail miserably. As the Dr Z article points out, it's Akron's fault, being a historically difficult place to win at 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 (edited) On 3/23/2024 at 8:29 PM, Spin said: Just curious. “Set up to fail”? He was an experienced college coach (not at this level) 40-8 at John Carroll, including a 12-2 9-0 season in D3. Sure the talent levels and size are way different, the X’s and O’s don’t change much. You make strategies to take advantages of their weaknesses while understanding your own. unless you don’t know how to. I think the biggest part of it is he just didn’t recruit well enough. Whether that was due to having poor recruiters on staff, the admin not giving enough support, or some other reason, I don’t know. Maybe all of the above? Regardless, it still falls back on him. A lot of coaches that were great at X’s and O’s, but were poor recruiters have flamed out at the D1 level. Steve Spurrier is one of the elite coaches of all time and flat out stop recruited during his last few years at South Carolina. At the tail end, he just wanted to coach football and let his assistants do the rest. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work like that. I know All-Conference isn’t the end all be all, especially when some of it goes off of win totals, but it’s a decent barometer for recruiting. Arth recruited 6 All-MAC players in three classes. The caveat is that 2 of them were developed by Moorhead’s staff. Dollard Watts Brank Mumpfield Irons* Gathings* Not a single OL or DL on the list. Edited July 22 by catdaddyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 Roo Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 3 hours ago, ZippyRulz said: As the Dr Z article points out, it's Akron's fault, being a historically difficult place to win at 🙄 After reading that article I wanted to go out and hire him again. Then reality set in and I was reminded a very simple fact, he's a horrible head coach. Thank you reality! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2024/11/20/tom-arth-steelers-quarterback-coach-assistant-pittsburgh-cleveland-browns-nfl/stories/202411200055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 16 minutes ago, GP1 said: https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2024/11/20/tom-arth-steelers-quarterback-coach-assistant-pittsburgh-cleveland-browns-nfl/stories/202411200055 Has he been out most successful ex-head coach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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